If a defensive system is switched off it has a 100% failure rate
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There are no stupid questions, the only stupid question is the one you don’t ask. This place is a perfect place to come and learn.
Done by hand, as shown here.
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The answer is subject to a massive number of variables.
Acoustic conditions at the time, water temperature, atmospheric conditions, the condition of the submarine (particularly its indiscretion rate and how long since it was last serviced), the quality of the equipment on board the MPA, the tactical and strategic situation and most importantly the training and quality of the people on both sides.
That said, enough serious air forces and navies around the world consider them worth the expense to acquire, operate, upgrade and replace them.
That is an answer in itself.
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DCNS at IMDEX ASIA 2007 Defence Show
DCNS is also displaying the Swordship concept ship, an audacious next-generation surface combatant.
More info on this vessel here
http://www.dcn.fr/us/innovation/p_swordship.html
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20,000 tonnes is a lot bigger than three helo’s worth of space.
Methinks they are downgrading its capabilities in official announcements to head off any international protests (shades of the through-deck cruiser).
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Well, its hard to take the human factor out……….even in war!:(
Especially in war!!
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I realy cannot see the Austalians going for four ships, the economy might be doing well but you have to remember that if you buy 4 ships you have to run four ships. Running 4 F-100s would probably be more expensive than running 3 AB lites.
That’s what I was getting at.
The choice is for three F100s at a lesser cost and a lesser capability, or three G&C AWD at a higher cost and higher capability.
It was never 4 vs 3, it was always 3 vs 3.
The final decision is some distance away and the Navy is lobbying hard for the AWD over the F100. They know they are only ever going to get three, so they might as well make it three of the best.
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Jonesy;Any Aussies out there with any news of how Triton is performing down under go straight to the top of my christmas card list!!!.
You have but to ask
‘Triton’ makes first catch – Friday, 23rd February 2007
The latest addition to the Customs border protection fleet, the ACV Triton has made its first apprehensions of illegal foreign fishing vessels off north-western Australia, the Minister for Justice and Customs, Senator Chris Ellison said today.
The Triton apprehended two illegal foreign fishing vessels overnight after they had been detected by Coastwatch surveillance aircraft approximately 73 nautical miles south-east of the Ashmore Islands.
Both fishing boats were located approximately 64 nautical miles inside the Australian fishing zone. They were assessed as quarantine risks and unsuitable for towing. The vessels were destroyed at sea.
Six people on the vessels have been detained and are being transported to Broome for processing.
Triton is a 98-metre trimaran that commenced operations with Customs earlier this month. It has the capability to stay at sea for extended periods and travel at speeds of up to 20 knots.
Senator Ellison said the Triton is a significant boost to Australia’s border protection capabilities and combating illegal fishing in northern Australian waters.
“It augments enforcement activities undertaken by Customs and navy patrol boats and other assets that the new Border Protection Command has available to it when tackling the problem of illegal foreign fishing.”
Senator Ellison said the Howard Government had allocated $17 million in the last Budget to provide for this year-long patrol deployment, as part of a $389 million funding increase over four years to support a new anti-illegal fishing strategy.
Media contact:
Matt Francis 0406 052 038
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Try three F100s for less than the prce for three G&C AWDs.
This contest isn’t over yet.
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hasn’t alredy been done with smaller ships weren’t the ANZACs bulit in germany and fitted out in AUS? and wasn’t there a smilar arangement in NZ for the MRV
Negative, all 10 Anzacs were built at the Tenix yard in Melbourne.
The MRV was built in the Netherlands and final fit out was done at Tenix.
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I thought the F-100 was pretty much a done deal for the Australian AWD’s???
Don’t believe everything you read, especially here…
😉
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The biggest issues are the rules of engagement, the chains of command, the myriad small differences in procedures that get people killed so fast its not funny, the language issues, the subtle but imprtant differences in flight deck operations and such that will make it a nightmare.
Nothing that cannot be worked out, but it would take a lot of time, effort and goodwill on all sides.
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Outstanding analysis, thank you for your hard work and research.
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Not a frakking chance in hell.
2009 at the very earliest, 2010 is also an outside possibility.
They still have another bad Northern winter to get through, which will slow down work once more.
Besides there are very few military projects that don’t suffer time slippages, especially ones on second hand warships being rebuilt for new applications.
q.v. The Australian Manoora class LPA conversions of ex-USN Newport class LSTs.
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Matt, don’t worry no one in India trusts US. After all 40-45 years of relationship with russia will not be sacrificed for the likes of US. As long as Indo-US chai-biscoot ceremony continues without affecting russia supplying us uranium on the side and India working actively towards self reliance and deterrence (A-3/4), I see no harm in it. India has offered nothing to US.
I find it fascinating Broncho, that someone who has such a distaste for the US lists their location as California.
If you hate the US and what it stands for so much, why are you there?
I also find it astounding that someone who lives in California can be so certain exactly what has been agreed between the US and Indian governments, beyond what is listed in the papers.
Do you have a channel into the corridors of power that the rest of the world lacks, or are you simply shooting your opinions off again?
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