Few countries tolerate illegal fishing or border violations.

Even fewer shoot said illegal fishermen

Unicorn

Unicorn,
Platina sonar on Sovremenny is really not that big, the really protruding ones are Polinom on Udaloy and Zvezda on Neustrashimy. I haven’t seen a single photo of Delhi class underwater part, but judging that they use the same sonars as Talwar class, You can have a look at Talwar model, photo is available at Bharat-Rakshak website.

Unfortunately Bharat-Rakshak has been down all week.

If anyone has a line drawing or photo of the Talwar showing the sonar arrangements I would be grateful.

Cheers

Unicorn

“Therefore, the armed forces of Pakistan Insha Allah will keep growing from strength to strength,” the president remarked, adding: “We are not into an arms race.”

For a country not in an arms race they sure spend a large amount of their scarce resources on the military.

Unicorn

Ah, thank you for that info Santi.

If anyone is thinking of fitting Tomahawk TASM or TLAM or considering an ABM role then they have to be talking strike length as that is the only size capable of accomodating SM-3 and Tomahawk.

Unicorn

The Mk-41 comes in the same size above deck for each 8 cell launcher.

The differences are below deck.

The Mk-41 comes in three lengths.

Self-defence (sized for VLSS and not a whole lot else).

Its quite short and makes minimal demands on the below decks space. This is the system fitted to the RAN’s FFG’s, the Anzacs and many of the Meko’s around the world. Its the most easily refitted MK-41 as it can be fitted to most classes with minimal disruption to existing ships services.

Tactical (sized for SM-1. SM-2, Harpoon and Asroc but can also take VLSS).

Makes a larger demand on space below decks. This was proposed for the RAN’s Adelaide class, replacing the 76mm gun on top of the superstructure block and replacing the Mk-13 launcher up forward with the same 5 inch gun as the Anzac’s. For reasons of cost it was not deemed feasable or effective to undertake what would have been a massive rebuild on what is a 30 year old design and on hulls that have seen a lot of hard service.

I understand this is what is fitted to the F100 and Nansen classes. It is probably too large for anything much under about 4000 tonnes due to the demands on both space and below deck “height” (a hull has to be a certain minimum depth to accomodate the Tactical launcher’s length).

Strike (Sized for SM-3 and Thomahawk but in common with the others can accept the same ordinance as the smaller cells).

This is what was fitted to the modified Spruances and is fitted to the Arleigh Burkes, Tico’s and Kongo’s. It is what will probably go into the KDX-III and will be specified for the AWD. Anyone who wants any sort of ABM capability has to be talking Strike length cells.

It is so long you really have to design the ship around it, trying to refit it to an existing design is a massive and probably futile effort. The Spruances could only cope with it because they were so large and had a lot of redundant space available as part of the design to accomodate additional upgrades.

6000 tonnes plus is probably the minimum size to accomodate the Strike length unless you design the ship around it and not much else.

Hope this helps.

Unicorn