“the People’s Liberation Army’s Navy (PLAN) will have gone through a complete force modernisation overhaul by the year 2050”
And in the year 2050 the United States will have orbital platforms commanding fields of low earth orbit to surface weapons (most likely the Thor “Rods of God” concept”), plus whatever surface and subsurface assets that another 44 years of unceasing technological development can offer.
The Japanese , Koreans (almost certainly unified by then) and whatever the Russian Federation has morphed into by then, will also field an array of technology we can scarcely comprehend, let alone predict.
I doubt that China will be in a position to claim sea dominance in the outer island chain in the teeth of everyone else, at best they are likely to be able to contest sea control with others.
Still, its nice to see they PLAN for the long term…
That was the initial scale model used to test the French SATRAP anti-rolling system prior to it being installed in Charled De Gaulle.
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Dear webmasters,
I came here because these were some of the best forums to be found on the net for these matters, and the level of expertise and participation by forum members was extremely high.
Obviously drawing traffic to your site is no longer of interest to you.
Your forums, your decision and your choice.
My decision and my choice: Leave and never come back.
Unicorn
The reason for that is that Proceedings of the US Naval Institute (from which this article was taken) devotes an entire issue later in the year to the USN, USMC and USCG.
March is their International Navies Issue.
Good thing you posted that, Mike. If you hadn’t already, I would have had to dig that up from Airlinebuzz and post it here!:D The Air Capable Spruance was the first thing I thought of when I read the title of this thread!
I can run but I can’t hide 😀
Here are a few other shots
Another small carrier design was the Air Capable Spruance.
The design options ranged from a Spruance with a much enlarged hangar and flight deck allowing operation of up to 6 or eight helos (not all at once of course) through to a through deck carrier based on the Spruance hull.
Unicorn
Don’t forget the United States Navy’s Pigeon class submarine rescue ships, which were catamarans which could carry the USN’s Mystic class DSRVs slung between the hulls.
There is no such thing as technicalities in this respect. You are either a Chinese person or you are not. Or alternatively, you are either a Japanese person or you are not a Japanese person. It’s determined by bloodline. And the majority of the population of Taiwan??? I suspect they write & speaks Chinese – not Nihonguojin.
Nationality is a factor of choice. I could be born in China, and emigrate to Mexico, take out Mexican citizenship and then I am a Mexican of Chinese descent.
Bloodline does not determine nationality, you are a national of the country in which you are born, or of the country of which your parents hold citizenship if you are born while they are travelling outside their country of nationality.
You can change your nationality through emigrating to another country, becoming a citizen and swearing allegiance to another country.
Thus those people born in Taiwan are Taiwanese, not Chinese. They could move to China, become Chinese citizens and that way become Chinese, but until that point they are Taiwanese citizens.
As for the language argument, does that mean that those people in Hong Kong who grew up speaking English are English now? Are Americans, Indians, South Africans, Australians, New Zealanders, Jamaicans and all the rest of the English language speakers officially English in nationality, simply because of the language you speak?
I thought not.
Get yourself a new argument Edisonone, neither of these holds water.
Unicorn
First and foremost:
Why do you insist that Beijing would attack the Island of Taiwan?
I mean if you are one of the Islanders, yes, indeed I can understand your
state of mind. But, if you are maybe one of the thousands who had been sold from top to bottom by Washington’s sales pitches (politics) that Beijing is doing all of this with the intention of Taiwan in mind — then, how can people be so cruel???
Because we listen when China says that they will use force to prevent Taiwan’s independence, even is doing so is the democratic choice of the people of Taiwan in a referendum?
Because we watch when China passes legislation enshrining their right to attack Taiwan if they are not happy with the direction that Taiwan’s government takes on the question of seeking true independance in both fact and name?
Because we remember China’s previous excursions into their neighbors territory (Tibet, Russia, Vietnam and the Spratleys)?
Just a few reasons.
Unicorn
Sydney is scheduled to pay off in 2013-14
Unicorn
While its a shame to see Wollongong go, a dive wreck is a better fate than many ex-warships see.
I served on here in a strictly interesting capacity 🙂 and have built a radio controlled 1/72 model of her which gets several outings a year.
I will probably end up building the next Wollongong I suppose, but don’t have the same attachment now I am out.
De Gaulle is going further than that, her air group is scheduled to take part in the Pitch Black multinational Air Defence Exercise in Australia’s Northern Territory.
Yes, having a quasi-centrally planned economy has its advantages, plus a governmental form that allows for the redirection of the economy at the whims of the leadership must help.
So much easier when one doesn’t have to submit to the voice of the people.
Unicorn
Politics mostly.
The Gibbs and Cox design was selected because it offered a significantly more capable design than the F100, hence the F100 was deemed inferior to the Gibbs and Cox design.
In particular the F100’s sea keeping was considered a concern given the different wave height and swell length encountered in the Pacific.
Reports from RAN observers on the Spanish F100’s indicated that sea keeping on them was not up to current RAN standards with regard to extent of roll and speed of roll.
The F100 is the fall back if the Gibbs and Cox design falls over, the same as the Leopard 2 was the fall back if the M1 acquisiition fell over.
It didn’t, so it was not needed.
Same goes for the F100, its an insurance policy the RAN has, but desperately does not want to have to use.
Unicorn
[QUOTE=Aurel]Didn’t they win a tender of the Oz’ Navy ?
Strange, found different data…
wikipedia
The Block IIIA has been acquired by the Bundesmarine.QUOTE]
Two things,
Ther F100 design was judged inferior to the modified Arleigh Burke class design from Gibbs and Cox, which was selected as preferred tenderer for the AWD.
Secondly, I would be EXTREMELY cautious in using Wikpedia as justification for anything, seeing it is compiled by individuals, and is subject to the biases that they may include, deliberately or otherwise.
Unicorn