As you might have seen or heard in the media this morning or after midnight (when the embargo on it was lifted), the CAA have issued their final report of their review of UK Civil Air Displays, after the Shoreham accident last August: –
They’ve also published a new and rewritten version of CAP 403 – ‘Flying displays and special events: A guide to safety and administrative arrangements’ which can be downloaded here: –
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP%20403%20Flying%20displays%20and%20special%20eventsMAR16.pdf
And,(for those who haven’t) it’s worth reading Peter Teichman’s latest news update on the Hangar 11 Facebook page, in which he makes his views and frustrations from his point of view as an experienced historic aircraft display pilot and owner/operator.
https://www.facebook.com/Hangar11Collection/posts/685852481555042
Cheers
Paul
Thanks for posting. The link to the guidance seems to be broken now, though it worked earlier. Does anyone know how the new heights and distances compare with the previous ones?
Blackburn did a lot of work on Fowler flaps for the Firebrand starting in 1939, so it stands to reason that the same type was used for the B-20.
Fantastic insight. Am delighted the work is continuing.
And the 2.5x Ju-88 and He-111 that whent to Gardermoen just outside Oslo.
But that is what he said, it took a lot of red tape cutting to get the OK to do those.
In which case, they deserve even more credit – they don’t seem to let it slow them down!
Link broken.
Is Norway much more open to recoveries these days?
I was told by my Norwegian pal that all military equipment is property of Norway thus takes a circus to get an OK to raise, or raised by the military with half a circus.
I don’t know about that, but there does seem to have been an awful lot of work of this nature in the last few years. Off the top of my head I can think of all the Skua work (recoveries from fjords and on land, from around half a dozen airframes), the two Ju88s currently under restoration at Bodo, Fw190 raised in the North, a Bf109E, and the wonderful He115 (see http://navalairhistory.com/2012/11/23/heinkel-he115-brought-into-the-sun-at-sola/ with apologies for plugging my own website).
Seconded. I do hope this can be resolved. It’s too important to get kicked into the long grass or worse, finished in an inappropriate way.
Yes, I didn’t mean to sound disparaging; the team responsible for the recovery and restoration are, of course, best placed to decide the most appropriate way to proceed and they do deserve our congratulations and encouragement.
It is easy to imagine that because the airframe looks (relatively) complete and intact underwater that it will remain so during recovery and restoration. The gradual process of corrosion could have left the major internal load-bearing structural components paper thin and incapable of supporting the airframe out of water.
My understanding is that this is basically what happened. The tail had been damaged, probably when the aircraft came to rest on its narrow ‘shelf’, and there wasn’t much holding it on.
I suppose for myself the most important aspect of this recovery is to properly measure and document the airframe as it is dismantled for restoration; once exact dimensions and material specifications are recorded this aircraft type, instead of being lost forever, is (hopefully), ‘preserved’ forever.
I’m certain this is being done. The team at Bodo are hunting not just for parts but for knowledge. Their interest in the type is phenomenal. I honestly can’t say enough in their favour, but then I am biased! The other thing to note is that this sort of work is hideously expensive. The search vessel MV Gunnerus is usually loaned by the university that runs it on the basis that the students benefit from using the sonar and ROVs as well as all the equipment for bringing objects up from the bottom. Its availability is usually limited to the times it’s not on university or commercial business, so the museum has to work around that.
But there has been an immense amount learned from this aircraft. For me, one of the most interesting things about this Skua was that its raising proved that some FAA aircraft at the time had been mistakenly painted with Sky Blue undersides (or as near an approximation as the maintainers could get on an aircraft carrier on ops in the North Sea) due to a misinterpretation of instructions from the Admiralty and Air Ministry. I’m only sorry Ian D. Huntley died before the aircraft was raised, as it would have been the final piece in the jigsaw of his very extensive work on Skua colours.
Thanks for the links. Quite surprised at the “wreck” that they bought up considering the before recovery pics. Makes me wonder if things went according to plan as it surfaced. I guess it just goes to show how initial looks can be deceiving.
But nevertheless an excellent restoration of a much forgotten type in my opinion!Rob
Don’t forget the sheer difficulty of bringing up an airframe from that depth. It was also on the edge of a deeper trench, and not at all easy to move. The depth and stillness of the water that the Skua was in meant that while the strength of the airframe had degraded a fair bit, a lot of material just stayed where it was until it was disturbed. The rear fuselage was full of silt, so unfortunately as soon as it was lifted off the fjord bed, it tipped up, which sadly but unavoidably caused a bit of damage.
The team at Bodo and Operation Skua have brought up bits and pieces from a number of other Skuas since, and the plan was always for original material in insufficiently good condition to be used as patterns for new parts. And I can assure you that where a component is usable, it is incorporated. The oil tank ahead of the already-restored cockpit has the bullet holes still in it!
There’s a photo in the FAAM collection which is reproduced on p.38 of my book on the Skua and Roc (MMP 2007) which shows a close-up of the markings on the side of Roc RO-150. This shows a rough swastika-shape on the white disc, slightly darker than the disc itself, which isn’t visible on the wide shot. This suggests to me that the swastika was applied then painted over in distemper for the transit flight.
Tara Fitzgerald
(To which the only proper response is ‘Does she indeed?’)
Dark Blue World?
About Czech fighter pilots in the RAF
I don’t know how representative these things are (I suspect not very) but I’ve spent a good few hours trying to fly a P-51 on the X-Plane 9 sim on my iPad.
I couldn’t say how difficult other people might find it, but I’d be delighted with that landing – 95% of my attempted landings end in ‘flaming death’ as the sim so delicately puts it. You think you’re coming down light as a feather, kiss the earth as gently as possible… then it’s bounce… bounce… bigger bounce… huge bounce… open up and try again or crash. Even if you do get down without turning into a giant metal space-hopper, the chances are you’ll end up with an uncontrollable swing.
I imagine this warbird flying lark isn’t as easy as it looks. There have been fatal first landings in P-51s after all.
Bicester definitely, Tangmere watch tower probably but in both cases, and others, how do you bring in revenue to pay for them and maintain them?
Defintely not saying don’t save any but let’s have a considered realistic view of what will happen once they’re saved.
As far as the Tangmere tower is concerned, could minibus tours be run from the museum?
Looks like a fascinating show. Am I right in thinking the formation of biplanes is made up of Bucker Jungmanns with three different types of powerplant? The ones with radials don’t quite look like Jungmeisters to me.
Thanks, the photos were taken with a Canon 5D MkII and Canon 400mm DO IS L lens.
Great, thanks. Really nice pics, great to see the BE replica playing such a prominent role.