Orkney Roc
As part of my research for my Skua/Roc book, I had some radio programmes copied from Orkney Library archive tapes. On one of these, there was an interview with a wreck diver who had apparently discovered a Blackburn Roc in quite good condition somewhere off the coast of Orkney. The location was kept secret to hide it from the souvenir hunters, but it was apparently quite accessible and there was talk of raising it. The radio interview was from 1987 and to my knowledge, nothing has happened since. I would be overjoyed to be proved wrong, however, and if anyone knows anything more about this discovery I’d be delighted to hear about it!
The frigate seen being hit on the bow is a Type 12 and is probably Argonaut which was hit by bombs and severely damaged, but was saved and later repaired
There’s an indistinct scene of what might be a burning ship at night – if so could be Ardent which was hit by two raids, first by Daggers, then Skyhawks, and had to be abandoned.
The frigate which blows up and breaks in two is the Type 22 Antelope which was hit by a bomb which went off while bomb disposal crew tried to defuse it.
The RFA burning would be the Sir Galahad?
The destroyer which rolls over was the Type 42 Coventry which was hit by bombs from a Skyhawk raid
Recommended reading: ‘Through Fire and Water: The loss of HMS Ardent’ and ‘Four Weeks in May: A Captain’s Story’ on the loss of Coventry
Thanks for these. Imagine my surprise when I saw my avatar Bucc flying overhead, landing and being taken down the lift! A week ago I’d never seen a photo of 923 in her original all white scheme – now I’ve seen several (in the new Aeroguide Bucc S1 book) and even a piece of film. Cheers!!!!
Nice to see the rarer S1 and NA39 (prototype/pre-production) footage.
I am sure the Treasury had a large say in the decision. In the 1980s, when the Bucaneers began to show signs of wing spar problems, most of the fleet was fixed.
Not entirely – a number that were too far gone were taken out of service and scrapped, some newer examples were OK without any work, I think the rest had an spar mod programme. Part of the reason the spar failures had happened was, in addition to the switch from low-level over sea to land, the effects of the wingtip extensions added on the S2. Many (but not all – Thunder City Buccs still have S2 wingtips) Buccs reverted to the shorter S1 wingtip to reduce stress.
Probably the main reason the Bucc fleet was patched up rather than being phased out was that the RAF needed them. There was no replacement or fallback available unlike with the Valiant where there were two, newer, better alternatives in service.
Have spoken to a number of very brave men, some of whom shot down enemy aircraft, others did not. Most of the stories I have heard are not exactly boys’ own stuff. There is a lot of survivors’ guilt, a lot of terror, sometimes anger and every so often some brief, incandescent moments of excitement. The best stories are a Telegraphist Air Gunner in a Blackburn Skua who during a dive bombing run saw what looked like pieces of straw flying past his window and felt a sudden sense of outrage that someone was actually shooting at him! Another involves a Skua pilot on no-doubt dull Fleet Requirements duties that flew his aircraft under two bridges in succession. Most of the stories that involve combat are terrifying to listen to and I can’t begin to imagine what they were like to experience. Possibly the most common thread running through many of the people I have spoken to who flew in combat is that they are dead against being called heroes.
As you can see here, she has indeed had a repaint…
Mmm, shiny! Good to see 607 with her face on in her year in the limelight.
We can also take some comfort from a statement made on the tvoc site, where it is stated that they have raised more by public subscription than anything else that isnt a hospital or similar. That shows a good level of support, not just for the Vulcan, but hopefully for other aviation projects in the future.
Well said, and well done to all those who put hand in pocket.
I hope the project succeeds. I am a big fan of 558 and I’d like little better than to see her flying again. In my opinion, VTTS has already worked miracles and has found a great deal of money that otherwise would not have been available to the preservation movement, so well done again to all who have helped.
This is me, standing up to be counted. That’s all.
It’s a bit like the millenium dome of aircraft restoration:diablo:
…with the exception that paying for the Dome wasn’t voluntary 😀
They have a 15% discount on merchandise at the moment so if you want to get that mouse mat/golfing umbrella/silk tie with warm fuzzy feelings of helping ‘558 back into the air thrown in for free, now’s your chance.
What a shame, I thoroughly enjoyed this show last year and was looking forward to this year’s event. I will support the Aerojumble and keep my fingers crossed for 2008.
Good luck to the organisers. As far as I was concerned they put on a wonderful show in 2006 and long may they continue to do so.
Excellent stuff!
Reminds me of the photographs of the prototype being taken from Brough to wherever the first flight was, being towed by an ancient vehicle – if memory serves, a traction engine! The antithesis of the state-of-the-art jet and the antedeluvian means of transporting it was amusing to say the least. Can’t find any pics, sadly.
Not sure, but Supermarine Attackers had an identically shaped device under the nose.
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Perhaps it should be renamed ‘Flying Myths’ considering all the (mostly outlandish) speculation.
More like.
I’m already bored with the subject, what we need is one of Snappers “Legends is Cancelled” threads to put the Moggy amongst the Doves, so to speak.
It has not been cancelled but it has been moved to RAF Coningsbury
ITV news will be doing an interview today with 1st Black Buck pilot (ok fires the jokes off guys & gals I cant remember his name D’oh) from Stanley. Today is the day, 1st May……….blimey has it really been 25 years.
Bex
Martin Withers I believe