As Rommel was rumoured to have said at Tobruk….” give me a Platoon of Australians ,and I,ll take over the world..” :diablo: ……for all time,remember Gallipoli we will.

The number of Aussies there are in my office I thought he had done! 😮

The Vampire night fighter (originally a private venture for the export market) was in service before the Meteor as it was a relatively simple modification, and therefore the first British radar equipped jet fighter (as far as I know) but I imagine there were others earlier than that – the American ASH radar was so light and easily fitted to a range of aircraft I can’t imagine some early US jets didn’t have that specced.

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Looks very much like your average ‘America won every war’ movie. QUOTE]

As opposed to the British war movies, yeah there were a lot of Americans featured in the BoB, Dam Busters, Sink the Bismark, 633 Squadron, Reach for the Sky, One of our planes is Missing, etc., etc. :rolleyes:

This is a movie about an American unit for crying out loud. Sorry they didn’t add a few token Brits.
You sound like the guys who were complaining about no Brits in “Saving Private Ryan”…again…that was a film about an American unit. 😡 😀

As I recall the main character in 633 Squadron was American. BoB took place before America was in the war and featured Poles and Czechs as well as Brits, as well as a recognition at the end of the pilots from each country that gave their lives. Reach for the Sky was a biography. One of Our Planes is Missing was a propaganda film. Where were the Americans in the hunt for the Bismarck? Name me one???

The problem is not Americans making films about Americans. It is that non-American subjects get ignored. Saving Private Ryan was not just about an American Unit, it was about a theatre of war in which that American unit was fighting, yet it ignored the purpose of the campaign and viewed it only as some sort of nation-defining test of American manhood.

Worse, the films where other nationalities do get a look in usually serves to insult them. Nicholas Farrell’s squadron leader in Pearl Harbor was a hopeless desk jockey wishing he could have a few more Yanks on his squadron. Bill Murdoch in Titanic (criminally based on a real person) was a weak-minded authoritarian who shoots Italian immigrants and then himself because he can’t take the guilt (Lightoller just bellows that he is going to shoot the passengers ‘like dogs’). Looks like Jean Reno plays a sterotypical lazy Frenchman who can hardly be bothered to fight to save his country. As usual as soon as anyone complains, we’re Yank bashing, whining or crying into our pints. As has been pointed out in the Revisionism thread, you don’t have to change history to rewrite it, but can give a totally different impression by just ignoring big chunks of what did happen.

[QUOTE=Fouga23]Papua New Guinea

You know what is sad about this is just how much material will be reused in the restoration?[/QOUTE]
who cares? As long as it’s restored!

…because then you might as well build a replica. It will probably cost less and take less time. This is a real aircaft with a real history, and heavy handed ‘restoration’ might end up getting rid of some of that. It needs to be preserved – that means no modern finishes or materials, no destroying original features to make it look shiny and new, and preferably just enough work to prevent further degradation. During the preservation process, masses can be learned about the history of the aircraft and the type that might not otherwise be recorded.

Now now! 😉

Sorry, one of those days.

[mutter]Why can’t we make a film about Mick Mannock, Billy Bishop, James McCudden anyway?[mutter]

Oh ****, it’s produced by Dean Devlin!

We can look forward to America showing us all how to fly, inventing air combat, being the custodians of freedom and imposing sundry national holidays on the rest of us then. Great. Another extended advert for the Bush regime.

Apparently when the Beverley was due to make its first flight the staff at Brough had a bet to see whether it would get off the ground or not!

The Connie is lovely, but a bit too bendy looking for my liking. Britannia all the way!

Surely the Avro York deserves honourable mention?

Connie best looking?

Nah.

(Before you go telling me it’s an airliner, the RAF and dozens of private operators used these for freight too)