yes it is
LOL no it isnt 
Yes do that
that’s gonna be fun
LOL, do you want me to confirm that the current RBE2 active phased array radar isnt an aesa either
and that a aesa type is looking at 2012 being fielded
Can you tell me how to shift the phases, if not electronically ?
come on, the rafale active phased-array radar isnt an aeas, thats coming and neither is the spectra active phased-array jammer transmitter an aesa
ROFL. Sorry but you don’t even know that APA and AESA is virtually the same and want to talk about such systems…:rolleyes:
APA and AESA, well they are virtually the same, except for the different meaning :rolleyes:
link the PdF directly otherwise he will continue to put in doubt the website :rolleyes:
http://www.thalesonline.com/assets/0/249/250/b60f1f4c-7193-4de7-941a-87a6ed234789.pdf?LangType=2057
Jackjack > it is at the end of page 2
The system’s
cutting-edge defensive measures are based on combinations of omni-directional AESA
jamming, multi-band decoying and evasive manoeuvres, as well as on state-of-the-art
technologies such as Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) signal processing.
360 deg aesa jamming isnt that its aesa, its that it can jam aesa
do you want me to send thales an email and ask for clarification?
Strange idea, don’t you think, to tell “ability to jam AESAs on 360° !”
http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio/Defence/Aerospace_Product_SPECTRA/?pid=1568
“active phased-array transmitters” Do you agree ?
we are talking the jammer transmitter system arent we
‘active phased-array’ isnt ‘Active Electronically Steered Array’ is it
excuse the wiki link, but it does provide a broad over view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array
No it was stated in an article that the ECM system uses AESA antennas, but it appears that those weren’t present from the very beginning. There was a press release about it in one of the Rafale news threads.
i’m more than happy to be corrected, but at this stage i think the author of the article is mistaken
do you have the link to the rafale news thread, or what site is it and i’ll google the phrase on it
http://www.thalesonline.com/Pages/PressRelease.aspx?id=10850
Defensive measures based on AESA jamming…. This should need AESA…. somewhere.
Still looking for other sources.
as i said, i think ‘aesa jamming’ refers to an ability to jam aesa and as such doesnt need any aesa equipment and not meant that the rwr/jammer is an “Active Electronically Steered Array”
That doesn’t mean that the content is wrong, however. But I can’t track back any single source as it is what I gat hered over many years from books, magazines, websites etc. dating back to the 90s.
so you dont have a handy source, its something you recall reading and that doesnt mean what you read was right in the first place
if anyone has a creditable link, we can put this one to bed
LOL, i guess that explains why i cant find a thales link for it, its not unusual for blogs and forums to miss quote the source
Look at this :
http://www.flightforum.org/index.php?topic=2164.0
http://defense-update.com/features/2008/november/rbe2aesa_rafale_081108.htmlThere is also a Thales brochure where it’s said that Spectra uses AESA but i can’t find the link.
Search the article “killer angels” by Bill Sweetman. I’ve checked Fox Three (issue 4) but it’s not in.
are we misunderstanding each other, rafales will get aesa radar
sorry but rwr and jammer “active array” or “smart antenna array” isnt aesa, is it
i did see the tech name of the the type of rwr sensor used from a yank forum, but it wasnt called aesa either or a have a link to verify what was claimed
do you mind if i ask for a dassault, thales etc type link instead of bill’s opinion
the only one degree reference i found so far on dassault referred to the temp control of the cockpit
The Rafale’s SPECTRA (Système de Protection et d’Evitement des Conduites de Tir du Rafale – Self Protection Equipment Countering Threats of Rafale Aircraft) is one of the most advanced EW ………………
…………Note:
The RWR and ECM systems are integrated as the DBEM (Détection et Brouillage Electromagnétique) sub-system.Source : thales press kit.
@+, Arka
do you have a link to the thales press kit, i tried to google it using quotes from your info, but nothing came up, just a couple of blogs
Information found in Fox Three for the first time, but also published in several publications.
the 1 deg receive and transmit ?
Some of the arrays of Spectra are AESA (this is why Thales claimed that Rafale was already equiped with a 360 degrees AESA set).
You may want to look at this : http://rafale.freeforums.org/post102.html#p102
are you sure you gave me the right link, i cant see aesa mentioned on the page. only the future aesa radar
i dont think dassault has claimed that they are asea based rwr or transmit, just that they receive and able to jam aesa, but i will go and read your forum and fox 3, what number fox 3 are you referring to, there are quite a few ?
By the way, i’m not sure Dassault/Thales are the only one to claim they achieved the “under one degree” accuracy for ESM/ECM.
its quite possible, i just havent seen it written yet, i’m more than happy to have and would like to have the right info on the rafale
Here’s a key point in that article-
I think it’s more likely this system might be effective in breaking a missile lock, giving the pilot an opportunity to conduct evasive manuevers, rather than rendering the plane electronically invisible to detection.
i missed that bit, although i did refer to it in my answer
i think they are confusing the rafale jammer with active cancellation
personally i think bill is a jurno who has himself in a tangle with his write up
other than bill and an obscure quote where didnt say it was active cancellation when asked. is there anything else that leads people to believe rafale has active cancellation
It’s not that i’ve no argument, but i don’t want to be labelled as an Active cancellation moron.
active cancellation does exist and if it can be used it would be the last of a long line of signal management tools, not the first and i dont believe you’re a moron
its possible a language or definition barrier with the rafale and its use with the term