‘Flyaway’ usually means the aircraft only, with no ancillary equipment, weapons, training, support, etc.

i’m giving up trying to work it out, i’ve got a headach and my nose is bleeding, whats the symtoms of a stroke ? LOL

it seems the total unit cost for 2010 unit price is $118 mill and the flyaway price is 55 mil, the unit price seems to change depending on how many are built etc and the flyaway is reasonably stable

page 22 and 23 of this link
http://www.finance.hq.navy.mil/FMB/10pres/APN_BA_01-04_Justification_Book.pdf

LOL, F35’s kamikaze fanbrigade is restless.

…and who said it won’t??
The thing is by the time the US develops F35 and start to pay for, according to development participation, the US will pay almost flyway price.
Partners won’t and will need to catch up with payments later, so forget that partners will cut the corners twice, on both development phase and actual purchase phase. They can cut corner only once and in fact partners will pay more expensive aircraft in the end, due downpayment date difference. In this particular case and for all intents and purposes the US Gvt. may be treated as a loan giver (banker) to JSF partner nations and like any loan this one has interest as well.

you just make it up as you go, dont you

Rafale is more expensive than SH it seems, at least according to the Brazilian FAB, however I am not sure the difference in capability is that big, at least not for exports which will have the AESA radar. Granted, the Rafale lacks a HMD and towed decoy, but apart from that I think the a/c itself looks pretty good. Also, whereas the SH may be ahead in some areas (like radar) it may be behind the Rafale in others.

How is the SH IRST coming along BTW?

we use the lightning pods on our hornets, the sh irst in the center fuel tank is for carrier landings and to free up a pilon
i would have to google to see whether we are going to use a pod or go with the tank
as per the usn, the sh block 11 has twice the capability as a block 1 and 3 times the capability of a 18c+
im only a pleb but i’d rate the rafale close to a sh block 1 with its current radar etc
as soon as france can put decent radar and weapons on the rafale, it will give it much more capability, dont you think,
if it gets brazil and uae, in 5 years time it will be a totally different plane, heck it may even be more capable that a sh

Look, I don’t have time to do research for you, but check this to get an idea of what’s going on.

F18E/F’s flyway price.

If you still don’t get it, I can’t help you anymore than this. Sorry…

LOL, a wiki link
the 55 mill is for the plane, not a flyaway, but dont feel bad, a lot of people get confused, perhaps if you have time you can go to the wiki and change it, it open to antone to write what they want

some people try to be obnoxious, with some it just come naturally

you will need to post creditable links for what you claim and show how i9t is counting apples for apples, make sure you dont confuse euros for dollars

ps, the aprox 55 mil isnt flyaway as you claimed

…hahahaha…Kid, get a brain…

Now, let’s take AUS for example here. As a partner AUS contributes with $150m in the JSF program development phase, worth ~$50b.
This is about 0.3% of the development worth and therefore AUS F35s will cost flyaway price+program price-0.3%.
Now, if this by some miracle doesn’t happen and US choose out of altruistic reasons to exempt AUS from paying development price, then someone else needs to pay the difference and that will be US taxpayers, no less.

Do you think this will happen? 😀

i know this is a waisted post, as you’ve been told this before
the us tax payer has always copped the r&d costs alone and usa sells at normal usa fly away costs to buyers, as per our fa-18f
this is the first partnership that usa has gone into, the partner costs have been paid, there is no further r&d costs to them
the sell price is the same fly away for usa and partners

now if you have a link that shows usg gets their r&d cost back, i’d like to see it, this will be a first in their procurement, otherwise you are just badly guessing

its pretty old news, when has a new aircraft ever been on-time
as has been just released, the seppo’s are chucking an extra bucket of money at it, not a problem

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20100105.aspx?comments=Y
January 5, 2010: The Indian government has overruled its air force and approved French assistance in bailing out an Indian attempt to develop an engine for the Indian designed LCA (Light Combat Aircraft, or “Tejas”). The French engine manufacturer Snecma will provide technical assistance that will cost the Indians over $200 million.