we send different planes to different red flags, it depends on what training is being done
not only are omega doing our refueling until our new tankers are online, they have brought our old tankers
http://www.australiandefence.com.au/9F25585D-BD75-3D4E-C5412CDC58870F29
Omega Aerial Refuelling Services expects to take delivery of three Boeing 707-300s tankers from the Australian government by the end of 2009
” Omega to ferry a Tornado squadron across the US for military exercises while it also supported Australian F/A 18 Hornets on their trans-Pacific flights to and from a Red Flag exercise in Alaska”
you can read about it if you copy paste the link into google translate,
http://translate.google.com/#ru|en|
as i suggested, perhaps google can help you know the difference
maybe some of you guys should google active cancellation and radar return transmitted deception
2 very different things
spudman, as well as the laser countermeasure, i read they are also working on a 100kw laser weapon for the f-35, put on the f-35b where normally the lift fan goes and powered by the lift drive shaft
it will be interesting to see the aim-9 block 2 when its released, it may even knock the asraam off its perch
You mean this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2siH9W5P4E&feature=related
This is not the whole picture what happent at Red Flag 2008.
The USAF know little of the Indian/Russian jammers, and it was only simulated.
Indian did not have any Data link they could use at Red Flag.
The USAF dude did screw up on several points about the MKI.
I wouldn’t go around using this video to prove a point..
First he says they dominated the Indians, then he goes about saying the MKI are better than the F15/16.. Like toocool points out, he(USAF) only want to promote the F-22A in these videos.Thanks
i’m just playing with the Luddites, i wouldnt seriously draw any conclusions from a training exercise
what “usa airforce guy”? I’m talking about written documents:
http://vayu-sena.tripod.com/exercise-iaf-usaf-su30-f15-article01.html
and it’s just an example… what “USAF guy” are you talking about?
there’s a youtube clip of red flag lecture
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/su-30.htm
the F-15 and F-16 “dominated” the Su-30. The Su-30 doesn’t begin to approach the F-22 Raptor, and the upgraded F-15C Eagles with AESA radar may also prove superior. In the Red Flag 2008 jamming between aircraft nullified radar-guided missiles and allowed the aircraft to come into the merge. The Indians tried to use their “air show tricks”, but the US pilots used the tactics they had developed to move in behind the Flankers when they started “sinking” and to quote a pilot, “drill their brains out with guns
You never wondered how “the best fighter bar none with 100+ victories against zero losses” (the F-15) became overnight a “second rate fighter” compared to international competition? Strangely, that fact “appeared” about at the time of F-22 acquisition discussions, and was fueled by the USAF… you even got “terrible results” in a couple exercises with india, for example… Strange coincidence, isn’t it?
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wow revisionist historian trolling, the usa airforce guy said they smacked the su
To me it’s a load of crap, RCS differs a houndred-fold depending on aspect.
instead of replying to me, ya could of sent them an email
No and I am not interested. But feel free to do it if it’s worth your time.
you’re the one that seems to want to question and know more, i’m quite at ease with the following
Nov 2005: The U.S. Air Force, in it’s effort to get money to build more F-22s, has revealed just how “stealthy” the F-22 is. It’s RCS (Radar Cross Section) is the equivalent, for a radar, to a metal marble. The less stealthy (and much cheaper) F-35, is equal to a metal golf ball. The F-35 stealthiness is a bit better than the B-2 bomber, which, in turn, was twice as good as that on the even older F-117.
to me it means the f-35 is more than twice the RCS stealth of the f-117 and the f-22 is higher than that
Complete nonsense. F-22’s RCS is not constant and features completely different values at various angles. There might be one or few angles at which the RCS equals a metal marble, that is all. By far not enough to say “it’s RCS is equivalent to a metal marble”.
F-35 is nowhere near being “much cheaper” than F-22. Besides that, its RCS reduction techniques are one generation newer and thus more advanced than those used on the Raptor. LM describe them as 3rd Gen stealth compared to 2nd gen of the F-22.
What does it mean “twice the stealth”? Exactly what definition it follows? Are you comparing absolute RCS values or something like “RCS reduction coefficient?
It’s not about what they know but what they tell you.
I personally prefer unbiased sources.. USAF is NOT an unbiased source when it comes to F-22. Neither is LM.
have you tried emailing the usaf and asking them to expand on their statement ?
saying that russia knows more about the f-22 than the usaf
when does trolling become spamming ?
There was a documentary on french TV about Dassault Aviation.
In it, Serge Dassault explained then that, as he was a young seller for his father’s company, they received a hint from Rolls Royce that australians may be interested in the mirage, but with RR engine.
He went to his father to tell him about it, and he didn’t think it worthwile, but, after all, why not try if “the kid” wanted to take a shot… and they made a bid proposing the RR Avon powered mirage III. in the end, Australia has chosen the ATAR powered version…
the mirage was the right plane for the right time for many nations, i see it as the height of french aviation
we may have replaced the F.111’s when the us retired there’s.if we had the F15 in service now instead of F18’s.we might have F15E.s now flying in gulf
our fa-18’s were deployed on bombing missions in the gulf, or have you forgotten ?