well it looks like its the chinese hackers time to get a payday.. codes anyone?

Yea well, neither is LO and costs a sh1tload of money more than improved ECM systems, which eventually leaves USAF with 187 (one hundred and eighty seven) mainstay fighters and a comfort that this is enough! Do you need more?

So, LO it’s even more problematic than ECM and you can always put new jammer/upgrade avionics, in 10-20 years time frame, but you can’t replace wings, or fuselage.

Again, F15’s combat score clearly shows that. And let’s not forget USAF lost 1xF16 as well as 1xF117 in Balkans campaign and how much damage F16 did in comparison to F117s?

As for dedicated CW broadband jamming platforms, you obviously didn’t see what those guys can do to almost all wavelengths, not just X-band…

And LO isn’t logictic problem?
What’s the F22’s fleet availability at any given day, in air-conditioned hangars in nearly factory conditions, at that??

You’re right in one thing, though.
You need bombs and planes in the air (not in maintenance) and lots of them. Today and in foreseeable future that’s hardly going to happen with LO planes.
Plus, LO planes are so expensive that for that same money one can build comparatively stronger air fleet, including ECM platforms.

this was the first one i found, can you give your opinion ?
if you like i will post more for you
its a 3 page opinion
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=awst&id=news/aw120108p2.xml&headline=F-35%20To%20Become%20Electronic%20Attack%20Aircraft

you guys have alrady been told on page 2 of this topic
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1490425&postcount=32

It sound logical, actors have more interest in testing the interoperability than knowing who is the best one.

17/11/09 Defence News U.S. F-22s, F-16s Deploy to UAE

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4381455&c=AIR&s=TOP
Quote:
U.S. Air Force F-16s and F-22s have deployed to the United Arab Emirates, the service announced Sunday.

The F-16s will be supporting Exercise Iron Falcon until Dec. 10 at the United Arab Emirates Air Warfare Center. The exercise is designed to bring together Gulf Cooperation Council nations and other countries to strengthen military-to-military relationships, promote regional security, improve combined tactical air operations, and enhance interoperability of forces, equipment and procedures.

During the same period, F-22s will participate in bilateral training opportunities with coalition partners.

Well if it’s designed for being looked at from above, then stores become a bit less of an issue. You’re going to be looking at 2 wingtip Micas, and the tip of 2 2000L tanks which can be treated with RAM, and in a 1st day of war scenario the tip of 2 SCALP, which are designed to be stealthy.

Nic

yes it was a good idea at the time
well at least you’re not saying it has active cancellation and i’m told ram doesnt work like that, my opinion is still. they are all + meters in rcs, some more than others, the su and f-15 being the bigest

If those Hornets were enough then why the need for the SH as a stopgap?

I personally think the RAAF could have done with just retiring the F111 and jumping directly to the JSF.

Now IF numbers were considered too low, then surely it would have been cheaper to lease some Gripens than to buy those SH and the infrastructure to support them.

Nic

infact you are right, our airforce were quite happy to just retire the f111 as they said the 18ab & systems could handle any neighbour and wait for the f-35, but it was delayed and we played it safe
the sh was the easiest plane to intergrate and its fully developed now, not a maybe in 5 years

from ‘herman the german’ at mp

The “RAF test flying insider” who has flown the Mig-29 and all the US Teen Series fighters is Craig Penrice. You can find the relevant interview with him on the day 3 podcast, 15.40-end. The planes are mentioned at 18 min. Believe it or not.

http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/index.php?section=audio

You don’t believe that there is another RAF pilot that has flown the Rafale in a exchange program? How so?

Is there even the remote possibility that the SH can be taken back by the USN after the RAAF starts to get it’s JSF in numbers?

Nic

that was answered by 2 posters on the last page