During the fights, both sides have tried all possible conditions, from the most favorable to least favorable. And both sides scored kills and losses, just like at every exercise. Especially at Dubendorf, it’s hard to beat the Swiss because they know every damn corner of their land and will beat your F-22s even with old Mirage IIIs and F-5Es suddenly appearing from some hole between the hills, the plane is by far not everything that counts!

But that doesn’t make the F/A-18 a better dogfighter than MiG-29. From what I have read, MiG can point its nose every bit as hard as the Bug and only slightly less than Mirage 2000, which is the rumored No.1 performer in this field. But contrary to the Bug, MiG doesn’t bleed energy as fast and regains knots much easier which gives it a fair 50/50 chance on initial encounter and exponentially growing chances on all following maneuvers, where the excess energy help the MiG jock to dictate the conditions. That’s all even without the HMS.

My link shows an article in Swiss paper Blick which was unfortunately removed since then, yes. But if you are actually eager to know, then you see enough references about the outcome.
The article is called “Die F-18C unterliegt MiG-29G in der Schweiz”, which means “F-18C beaten by MiG-29G in Switzerland”. If that is not enough, you can observe the reactions of the posters which clearly indicate the outcome, even if we cannot read the article itself anymore.

If saying that MiG-29 is a better dogfighter than F-18C only means “spouting crap due to lack of respect towards US equipment”, then I will gladly continue spouting this crap even further. And there is nothing you can do about it, sorry.

you realise of course that the euro’s didnt update their FCS untill they did their upgrades just recently ?

if you can be bothered to look, you will see a great roll improvement about 2003/4 when it went from ~35 to ~55 AOA
page 26
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/36378/16-885JFall2003/NR/rdonlyres/Aeronautics-and-Astronautics/16-885JFall2003/70D5449E-60FA-4C95-B80B-D4B19D12C222/0/sohl_mit_brief.pdf

scorpion you are trying to score a point that isnt there

read my post again
“outside of usa and most of the time within, the f-22 flys with radar reflectors for security, its only in war mode it runs its true RCS”
the word ‘most’ allows for secured exercises within usa

i dont know what they do to the top, all i know is there is a hot and cold rcs
if you tell me how all the rcs tech works on a f-22, it may explain it
while you’re at it can you tell me why the f-35 has 2 layers of ‘electrified mesh’ ?

i think most of what you say is accurate, you are open to discussion and not fanboy rantings and i have said to others what you have posted on occasion

the passive mica shot and gps weapons, we arent of the same opinion but we are close
we disagree on AC, you think it is possible that the rafale has it, i think its just the subs

cut it anyway you want, LM have just that its “better”

you’re probably right but that wasnt the impression i got, you might want to check that if you’re not sure, as i dont know

so we accept every thing EF say, but LM are liars, LOL

ok, if you have seen it on the video’s or read it, it does, unless you’re guessing like me
the reason i mentioned the f-22 is because of rafale and i think the rafale would take the phoon in a guns dogfight