i gave you guns dogfight,,,i think the rafale would win more often
but SH was initially chosen on technical grounds as the best fighter and it seems so has Kuwait
Technical analysis of the Kuwaiti Ministry of Defense recommends the purchase of F-18
Technical teams from the Ministry of Defence and the Kuwait Air Force (KAF) forwarded to Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad and the Minister of Defense Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak a report of 485 pages giving an account in the technical analysis that the plane that will equip Armed forces from Kuwait was the Boeing F-18 Super Hornet at the expense of the French Dassault Rafale fighter.
Technical teams from the Ministry of Defence and the Kuwait Air Force (KAF) forwarded to Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad and the Minister of Defense Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak 485 pages of the report giving an account in the technical analysis That That Will equip the plane Kuwait’s armed forces would Be The Boeing F-18 Super Hornet at the expense of the French Dassault Rafale fighter.
Boeing announced today at Farnborough Airshow a package of improvements to upgrade its line of F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighter jets in order to increase the pespectivas export the aircraft. Boeing Announced today at Farnborough Airshow a package of ‘improvements to upgrade ITS line of F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighter jets in order to Increase the pespectivas export the aircraft. The countries currently evaluating the aircraft are Brazil, Denmark, India, Japan, Kuwait, Malaysia and Qatar.
except that your links didnt say the SH lost in wvr or bvr, its your imagination
woo hang on,,, you need link to facts and the facts have to mean something
better guns dogfight isnt better a2a
you still havent told me how they overcome the hms on the SH
post what he said, not what you would have liked him to,,,LOL
we are talking hornet not phoon, one thing at a time and the usa has future weapons too
lets stick with today
you make it up as you go, rafale didnt say they won
what tactics ? oh thats right the 100’s and 100’s of ‘surprise’ tactics
but ok, you want to start bvr, the french have already said the SH has better radar and missile, you are already dead well before wvr
ok, lets start with wvr
The JHMCS is in production and is currently operational with U.S. fighter aircraft. This highly accurate cueing system provides pilots with “First look, First shot” high off-boresight weapons engagement capabilities. JHMCS enables the pilot to accurately direct (cue) onboard weapons against enemy aircraft while performing high-G aircraft maneuvers. The pilot needs only to point his / her head at the target and weapons will be directed to where the pilot is looking. The system can also be employed to accurately cue the pilot to ground targets. As a cueing system, JHMCS is a two way interface in that sensors aboard the aircraft can cue the pilot to potential targets or, conversely, the pilot can cue weapons and sensor systems to areas of interest. Critical information and symbology such as targeting cues and aircraft performance parameters are graphically displayed directly on the pilot’s visor.
your turn………………………..
no, this is a source
http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=10
pray tell what a rafale can do that the SH cant do better ? i’ll give you a guns dogfight as one
you are being silly now, SA and sensors leave the rafale embarrassed
even the french arent saying that, they arent even saying they got a bvr hit
nope, if it was the other way around and rafale had the better radar and missile and the SH had to rely on ‘surprises’
with the french admiral saying the SH was very capable, i’d take it for what its worth
remember i’m a f-35 fanboy
what do you expect him to say, show me where there is an us offical bagging any friendly airforce
france said the rafale was behind in radar and missiles, how many ‘surprises’ can 4 rafale x 2 sorties a day for a week come up with ?
there is a french exchange pilot, see if he has given an interview
once again it doesnt say what you claim, it was a dogfight and in a guns dogfight i’d give it to the rafale
they have said the SH is better in BVR, the rest is nonsense about an edge
Against the Superhornet block 2
-In dogfihts the rafale was clearly superior. Rafale pilots told that the SH has an impressive ability to take a lot of angle of attack…Up to 65° in defensive manoeuvres. But that resulted in a lot of energy loss and were then easy prey as the SH tend to “sink” after such manoeuvres
-In BVR against the SH block2 rafale pilots acknowledge that SH AESA radar has a greater range than the rbe2 PESA and that lattest amrams versions have a bigger reach than micas. However the OSF, sensor fusion, correct use of link 16 and surprising tactics helped the rafale to keep an edge.
do you have a link to SH blk 11 claims ?
What jammers does it have? AFAIK the Australian SH cannot use their AESA for EW; perhaps there is a separate system?
we dont have EA through the aesa yet but EW jamming etc and the towed array, IOC end 2011 so will be done by then and we are getting a dozen wired as ea-18g growlers
AN/ALQ-214(V)3 EDM IDECM RFCM
http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Radar-and-Electronic-Warfare-Systems/AN-ALQ-214-V-Integrated-Defensive-Electronic-CounterMeasures-IDECM-Radio-Frequency-CounterMeasures-RFCM-system-United-States.html
If we assume the two has somewhat similar RCS loaded with bombs, (and the lower the a/c RCS, the more similar with bomb load)
and we can say that EW works to a degree, but does not completely take away a signature, and that both a/c either used, or didn’t use EW,
(similar conditions, as FAB stated)
-Then the french EW has to be over a houndred times more effective then the american EW for this statement to be true.
it doesnt pass the common sense test, does it
have a look at the jammers the SH uses