sorry about that 😀
at least they will agree with the french subs being a good idea at SP
the other may get a bit messy :diablo:
if swedes gave better TOT to their fighter and for other programs, it gets even stranger
i still think russia and china sound like a good idea to build ties with for them, if they want to be anti-usa
the subs ties france

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/farnborough/?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=af81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2&plckPostId=Blog%3aaf81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2Post%3afb85660f-c92b-4f3e-9b7b-65bcf54c82cb&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest
The Brazilian government will not make a decision on the F-X2 fighter competition before presidential elections in the country in the fall, predicts the Brazilian air force chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Saito. He indicates a decision may have been made, but will be handed off by president Lula to his replacement.
Saito will not say which aircraft he prefers.

i havent really looked at a f-15 but the engine upgrades on the SH will give it better acceleration than SH has now, but i think i lean to the f-15 for acceleration at a guess
but it wont be based on which one is the fastest 🙂 but i’m sure someone will say the f-15 is m2.5 and the SH is m1.7, so f-15 wins

the f-15 aesa will have the apg-79 SH backend and a larger antenna, so 15 should have the edge there in the se/uber, if both have the same [new or 79] backend
its a matter of other systems that boeing puts in, ultimately its up to them which one will be ‘better’

dont you mean, can the f-15 regain lost ground and exceed the capability of the fa-18 sh, within systems the se vs uber hornet

this started when arthuro was negative to the gripen radar and i said ‘aesa’ had isar and ea, unlike rafale
it has gone from there and yes there are plans for the phoon to have isar,
but why put up a link, you dont even believe thales and dassault and say that even though its not stated, it doesnt mean it doesnt have it
someone told me aussie f-35 are going to have 2 engines, just because its not stated by LM, doesnt mean it wont

to whom it may concern
page 2, no sar in f-1, page 3 sar for f-2
http://www.dassault-aviation.com/fileadmin/user_upload/redacteur/AUTRES_DOCS/Fox_three/Fox_Three_nr_2.pdf

page 13 , aesa In air-to-ground mode, the higher power budget
translates into better contrast on synthetic aperture
radar (SAR) images.
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/img/fox3_8.pdf

TMor
you have a short memory, i said this before and you responded similarly 😀
its only when i’m playing with fanboys i normally leave that part out :diablo:

@Blue Apple
open the link, they were hoping just to get sar on the rafale, let alone anything else
you guys are funny, you demand proof, i put up a dassault link saying it didnt have sar at the time and wanted it, you say its no good,
its like i’m trying to tell you there isnt a god :dev2:

there was a lack of funding and it wasted a good plane, it missed out on early export and so didnt give funds to do it right even now
the french arent going to spend any money on it, if a customer wants anything, they have to pay for it
there is talk of 2020 major upgrade, that will take it to 2050+
no 1st tier force will be flying any 4+gen well before that
my guess is france will continue with the 4 possible sales and then scrap the rafale and join in a partnership as a sensible thing to do
just being one country is being costed out of fast jets, except for usa and even they did a partnership on the f-35

my point was it knocked the winner out, as said the fa-18 sh and it had to go from 10 to 40% to do it
the TOT seems the major factor, then the one with the biggest or needed TOT will win, if the new pres sees it this way too
i wouldnt be surprised to see russia back in the mix

to be honest the subs are enough to cement french/brazil,
fast jets ? i would choose gripen for need and export potential but little swede/brazil political military value
russia keeps coming up as sensible with later bring china into the mix, if they want to continue down the anti-usa path

gripen/rafale with equal avionics? i think the rafale is a good plane and my choice if i was buying a plane for just me out of the two