he has already said he is leaving the rafale order for the next president and even if he makes a grandstand speech, the next president has the power to do what she/he wants with the competition
you repeatedly copy pasting something you found changes nothing even if you wish it might
how many times do you copy paste and post the same thing again and again before you think its spamming ?
i know, i just would have liked something like the us budget pdf’s that splits down the price
also the more i read the more that 59m euro looks wrong
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/369/
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/368/
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Eurofighters-EUR-9B-Miltinational-Tranche-3A-Contract-05674/
it seems the t3a 9b/80m euro isnt the full kit, even though it has 17 spare engines and the computer costs you are talking about are needed to bring t3a up to date and so arent separate for t1-2
if the computer R&D is included in the 9b that would need to be taken out
at this stage i’m seeing t3a as 80+m euro’s even allowing for the extra engines
i hope that it is, if we get export we will cut production for france for those years, if not we continue as we are
5-10-15 either way they are just ticking over the production to keep the line running, badly needing decent export to fund development and more craft to get the costs down
i am curious now, but before it was just to try and work out what the phoon costs in flyaway and what is included in it
so as to have a somewhat comparable cost to other flyaways
nothing wrong with that, it is sensible to outsource, its that flag waving is whats silly
15 a year LOL, how many years have they made 15 ? and i saw it as not dependent on export but hoping the export would keep it being built
it was also posted a while ago they had 20 for 2011-2014, thats 5 a year
also uae and brazil will be building the rafale, only a few initial ones will be built in france
read my link i put up about it
so whats the story with no more rafale for france for years
kovy
ok plugging wires together is thales, making it is swiss
tmor
i guess i shouldnt use the term integration, it seems you guys define it as the complete radar, hardware software
my point is that the carry on from arthuro is unfounded
i’m still waiting for you to acknowledge that the swiss are doing the integration of the antenna to the backend
i know rafale production for france has been very slow, but is it really true they are stopping production for france, at this stage for 2 years ?
what happens if there are no exports or they come late, are they are just going to shut the line ?
of more concern to aussies is the tiger and nm90 choppers and when you guys are going to spend development money so we can get IOC
the nh90 are grounded here because of engine problems and the french owned assembler here has had money stopped to them a couple of times
i’m aware t3a is being built as t2 with future tech in mind to address upgrading, that i saw when i was looking at phoon price and they would be looking at designing the retrofitting this stuff to t1 and t2, how hard this would be is another matter eg the f-22 and its problems
i also suggest that the t1 and t2 upgrades would be a different contract
there must be a copy of the contract or an official statement to what t3a is
You are wrong again jackjack. The RBE2 AESA is much more than just an AESA antenna add on. I have already posted an older air et cosmos report detailing all the hardware and performance upgrade. New processor, new architecture etc…I hope that another poster will quote this (I have lost track on this report despite several google search).
and you are quick to tackle Thales but look what selex is preparing for the Typhoon :
if you google thales and australia, you will find that thales are ok with aussies and i have said given the money they can do a decent radar
i havent really looked at phoons or selex in any detail, there arent any fanboys spouting nonsense to motivate me to look at it, other than the phoon price
i did look at the gripen radar and they are including EW in it, unlike rafale
its said rafale has problems in its computer architecture, so rbe2 wouldnt surprise me either, as/more important is the software
Thales and France is keeping investing on aesa tech to maintain its leadership in Europe.
As for gallium nitride, the PEA Incas (integration of new capacities in Spectra) examine its integration in Spectra for 5th tranche Rafale.
On the other hand, under the European research program Korrigan, the UMS foundry (which produces the current GaAs modules for the RBE2-AESA) has already produced its first GaN component. A certification campaign for military aviation standards is underway and should be completed in 2011.
and what do you base this supposed leadership on ?
my understanding it that it is multination joint ventures
saying a standard in 2011 for 5th tranche 2020+ when raytheon already has a tested GaN module and antenna now LOL
just spend 1 mn in google and you know but i guess you more interested in posting dumb statement 😀
http://www.armedforces-int.com/article/aircraft-radar-development.html
you might want to google for 1mn 10sec then and see that the subassembly is to integrate the antenna to the backend
fair enough, do you have a link to the contract, i’d like to see what else it included
LoL
i have put a link up to where the swiss are integrating the antenna to the backend
i havent bothered to see who is making the antenna, but i have asked here if anyone knows