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  • July 9, 2010 at 6:58 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396559
    jackjack
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    maus
    there will still be ground support, but autonomous control has and will replace basic stuff, even with the ea-18g now
    everything works in one big system with designed overlap, its not how good something is by its self, its how well it fits into the system

    July 9, 2010 at 6:26 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396588
    jackjack
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    you had better send an email to LM and tell them they are wrong in their plans to have the f-35 as a hub for a hive of UCAV’s

    July 9, 2010 at 4:35 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396693
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    sens
    there is no set price for israel yet, which you would have known if you read my post
    a lot of people can think what they want to, only gov and air forces count
    israel will run f-35 as high and the rest as low untill their 4th gen are retired

    July 9, 2010 at 3:23 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396776
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    The Israeli price tag is not LRIP! Who are cluchting at straws now?! 😎

    you just make it up as you go, dont you, they decide on full production mid 2016 and are still LRIP, so it will be 2017 for full production
    http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/massive-cost-increase-projected-for-lockheed-martin-f-35-24189/
    The Defense Ministry consultations were expected to continue throughout July 2010, with a decision expected by September. The Air Force has been an advocate of procuring the F-35, but the Ministry has sought technology transfer, offsets and the installation of Israeli electronic warfare and other systems. So far, the Pentagon has refused to approve the Israeli requests.

    At this point, Lockheed Martin has not set the price of JSF, expected to reach $150 million. The development program has been delayed by at least 13 months, which officials said meant that Israel would not receive the first F-35s until 2016.
    [LM say they can deliver sooner]

    July 9, 2010 at 1:36 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396883
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    So in general the real cost for every customer.

    same as every other aircraft, you are clutching at straws now 😀

    July 9, 2010 at 1:35 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396885
    jackjack
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    That includes spare parts, new infrastructure, training, etc… That’s not the flyaway cost, that Israel would pay per aircraft.

    and they are LRIP and not full production price

    July 9, 2010 at 1:23 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396901
    jackjack
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    We hope that the Eurofighter is still in service when those become operational.

    well i hope so, its suppose to suck up all the SAMs,PAKs & SUs while the f-35 goes about its business
    http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/455/
    Casolini: The Eurofighter and the F-35 are aimed at different sectors of the market. Actually, we feel that the very presence of the F-35 will turn the Eurofighter into the veritable “Coalition Fighter”.
    it is pretty obvious that F-35s deployed in their primary attack role would need to be protected from the possible presence of enemy fighters
    Some countries that are currently considering the possible purchase of the JSF, will soon discover this basic point. This is for instance the case with Turkey or Japan, which would eventually want to deploy the same mixed fleet of Eurofighters and F-35s as Italy and the UK.

    this story needs to be updated re turkey and japan, seems they are going to use drones as decoys :diablo:

    July 9, 2010 at 12:21 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396982
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    gee, dont you think you should know how terrible the f-35 is by now, or have you just been bagging for the fun of it ?

    July 9, 2010 at 8:26 am in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2397232
    jackjack
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    i’m even more surprised by eurocanard fanboys delusions that they can go up against PAK and chinese gen 5

    July 9, 2010 at 3:34 am in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2397333
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    You probably will be shocked but there are countries where people prefer universal healthcare to stealth aircraft for few chosen uselessly flying over their heads.

    all the partners have universal healthcare, its just corporate owned usa that doesnt
    i await your next bit of nonsense

    July 8, 2010 at 9:04 pm in reply to: Questions about JDRAM and F-22/F-35 #2397474
    jackjack
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    the asraam targets parts of the plane now and probably some other missiles do too
    i think that the blast can be directed in different directions is the new tech

    July 5, 2010 at 2:00 am in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2401193
    jackjack
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    well i dont really know how successful a conversion from 4.5 gen to 5th gen would be

    July 5, 2010 at 12:45 am in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2401229
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    well it looks like you can scratch the phoon off the list
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286635/Defence-budget-cuts-Major-projects-axed-troops-kit-need-says-Liam-Fox.html
    Defence Secretary, Dr Fox made clear that major projects like the Typhoon Eurofighter jet – already seen as obsolete – will bear the brunt of cuts.

    July 5, 2010 at 12:33 am in reply to: Typhoon VS F-22 VS Rafale part II #2401234
    jackjack
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    well it looks like just as the phoon is said to be 5th gen its obsolete, so i guess they should have stayed 4.5
    dont you hate it when someone ruins the EU fantasy

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286635/Defence-budget-cuts-Major-projects-axed-troops-kit-need-says-Liam-Fox.html
    Defence Secretary, Dr Fox made clear that major projects like the Typhoon Eurofighter jet – already seen as obsolete – will bear the brunt of cuts.

    July 4, 2010 at 11:06 pm in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2401239
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    i think you’re spot on toan,
    its not the popular EU prideful stuff and you have said things i have been reluctant to say as a non EU

    further, its not for the lack of decent engineers as subs are much more technical and are funded as national security
    its simply the matter that EU has been R&D priced out of the fast jet market,
    the usa eats the R&D on any military product and sell at USA cost +3%? FMS
    the f-35 partnership have brought the major players together and will sell with the same FMS structure
    they have made it hard for a single nation to compete in the future, eg dassault and saab

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