i’ve been following the thread andy and sitting back watching people tell you how to suck eggs
its all very entertaining

ok, looks like i may have missed it, i havent heard of heat problems, to save me looking it up are the 35b ‘hot parts’ sevice life very different to the 35a or an av fighter engine ?

LOL, nice one, spoken like a true fanboy 😎
i forget if you’re a rafale or a phoon fanboy, so i’ll let the ‘weak parts’ slip to the keeper about any particular engine
but both have significantly less heat tolerance that the f135 has now, look at the internal fuel burn temps the m88 is about 1/2 as much and i forget the % difference to the typhoon one but its closer, if your a phoon fan can you look it up for me again
but pray tell us about how the eurocanards high tech ceramics are going
just to remind you
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4671446&c=AIR&s=TOP

sens
dam, i pressed edit instead of quote and messed up the original post
but
further to what i said about the f135 being design locked about 2004 and the already planed update for block ~6 or when major overhauls are done
some info has just been released to confirm this

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4671446&c=AIR&s=TOP
“The General Electric Rolls-Royce Fighter Engine Team developed and implemented third-stage, low pressure turbine vanes made from ceramic matrix composites” to give the airplanes more thrust, range and fuel efficiency due to their lighter weight and increased heat tolerances,

The composite vanes were developed as part of a Pentagon project to develop lightweight, high-strength composite parts that can withstand the incredibly high temperatures found in the “hot section” of a jet engine, according to the report. Other members of the team to develop such parts included the U.S. Air Force, Navy and Pratt & Whitney.

The performance increases expected to be brought about by the project are “projected to decrease production and maintenance costs by over $3 billion” for the JSF’s Pratt & Whitney-built engine, known as the F135, as well as its controversial alternate engine made by GE and Rolls Royce, known as the F136.

I strongly suspect that the folks that are building the aircraft have much better numbers, than folks that are guesstimating.

its funny when most of the naysayers disappear when something positive is posted, i guess they will return on the next page
several months ago when all this price stuff blew up
we reported to our senate our original estimated price of us$68/ au$75 price still held
so either we have included non-flyaway kit in our price or we actually hold our judgment on the us$60m and have allowed a bit more
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/australia-working-on-jets-payments-20100330-r9oe.html

we just sat back down here and watched the price circus from vested interests on all sides, as i’m sure the other partners have too
it could be as simple as the usg wanting a high price now, that they can later show it as cheaper than budgeted and take any opposition off at the knees if the $60m price doesnt hold

Conversely the asset of AASMs (praised by pilots) is that you are much more reactive as its exotic kinetics enables it to be shot over the shoulder if needed. The firing domain is much more flexible due to the rocket booster.

you just make it up as you go, dont you, like most things are oversold with pixie dust magic
i do like the about 90deg hobs assm and would be quite happy if aussies saw a need for it in our weapon set

Just digged through my sources, here is the standard ground testing procedure of GSh-1-30 cannon: four bursts (25-20-15-15 rounds) with breaks lasting 3-5 sec. After having fired 75 rounds like that, a cooling break is required.

where would we be without wiki and the odd google, eh ? :diablo:

no, sing was saying about a-stan and weapon loads, so rafale in a-stan ability is relevant
and i said about the rafale is getting the damaclese pod
i feel i have been honest in my assessment and not flaming at all