you boys are getting too excited, so i went back to see his wording
it seems my wording was appropriate

http://g2globalsolutions.com/review/?p=3694
“Our colleagues at Air & Cosmos report that the French government is funding a demonstration of improved stealth technology for the Dassault Rafale fighter, with a focus on active cancellation techniques”

the guy is a turkey

mbda is, i havent read that thales is involved in any way and if rafale has AC because of MBDA, so does typhoon
active stealth is a non-term and it could be anything, pumping fuel for ir cooling would fall under the active stealth

The AIM-9X has a 128×128 or 256×256 pixel detector (I forget which). Not only that, there are numerous shots out there from the detector and it’s obvious it’s resoultion is FAR less that what we’ve seen here in the MLD shots.

yes, it was the tech from the f-22 that went to make the f-35 das
128×128 is the 9x but it has poor resolution compared to the mlds
missile seekers have to be cheap to produce, lower res/depth of field so as not to overload the software with data, sensors on the plane are durable and can have money spent on them

nics delusion is because the rafale current ir osf is considered obsolete and does have the resolution of the mica seeker as for their current mld, its a non imaging ir heat detector for the flares
when they get the damoclese x pod and their new MLD sensor, he will let go of this nonsense
he probable didnt even open the link i suggested to the new rafale mld in his haste to claim what tech is now on the rafale is great and no different,
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/113638/mbda-flight_tests-new-missile-detector-for-rafale.html#
rafales new MLD

its going to be funny watching him change his story

not to be a smart ass but all ir sensors can detect the sun and thats a fair way off
it wouldnt have optical zoom but might have digital zoom to be of tactical ID bvr use

TV + link 16 can enable a fighter to home in on a F22 silently; besides, there is always a risk when using a radar, however much LPI it might be, especially when you want to go undetected.

So having a missile that serves as an IRST would be a pretty good idea; especially if you find a way to minimise drag, RCS penalty and complexity.

you’re assuming the f-22 wont detect rafale emissions other than radar
in the vietnam war they were bombing on the emissions of a trucks electrical system under the tree canopy
what about the battle space ‘system’ that the f-22 fights within ?
its kind of naive to think any schitbox plane with a tv camera [and no the rafale isnt a schitbox] is a real threat to the f-22 in a system,
edit, thats not even allowing for the onboard AN/AAR-56, as Lmraptor said below

Active cancelation is not advertised (due to its sensitive nature) and all developments concerning it (see posts above from in the french budget) don’t mention it directly and talk about discretion demonstartors. But all the specialized press including A&Cosmos knows what its really about.

see now statements like that is where it all starts to go down hill
i’m quite happy to go with specialised press about the ‘discretion demonstrator’
do you have some links that go into it

it depends on what they mean by active stealth, in this thread and others its assumed its active cancellation and not DRFM or the like
i’m willing to accept the proposition and would like to read up on it for a clearer understanding
they are the same links that are on AD and it is said it doesnt clarify the meaning
http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.air-defense.net/forum/index.php/topic,9601.0.html&ei=BIK3S_zTIdCIkAWp3K3-DA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBIQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dun%2Bd%25C3%25A9monstrateur%2Bde%2Bdiscr%25C3%25A9tion%2Bpour%2Ble%2BRAFALE,%2Bun%2Bd%25C3%25A9monstrateur%2Bd%25E2%2580%2599h%25C3%25A9licopt%25C3%25A8re%2Bdu%2Bfutur,%2Bun%2Bd%25C3%25A9monstrateur%2Bde%2Bconduite%2Bde%2Btir%2Bair-sol%2Bet%2Bun%2Bd%25C3%25A9monstrateur%2Bde%2Bbrouilleur%2Boffensif%2Ba%25C3%25A9roport%25C3%25A9%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DdD8%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official
the quote “a demonstrator of discretion for the Rafale”doesnt sound like active cancellation to me as it could mean anything if the are 3 separate programs
“the design of future combat air systems: work will be carried by a demonstrator of discretion for the Rafale, a demonstrator helicopter of the future, a prototype fire control and air-ground offensive airborne jammer demonstrator;”

the second quote seems to read that the jammer provides the discretion for both rafale and chopper ?

“- surface to air missile vertical launch of multifunctional integrated electromagnetic missile cruise missile land combat, tactical situation interoperable naval fire-control air-ground offensive airborne jammer, discretion for BURST and helicopter of the future.”

i take it there is no other release on the “demonstrator of discretion for the Rafale”

http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/36378/16-885JFall2003/NR/rdonlyres/Aeronautics-and-Astronautics/16-885JFall2003/70D5449E-60FA-4C95-B80B-D4B19D12C222/0/sohl_mit_brief.pdf
ok i guess you missed this on the hornet rolling at 45 deg aoa