cookie, i guess phoon is the only option for the world, if you are right
i wonder why there is a list of countries that have chosen the f-35 and rejected the typhoon
you should send them an email and tell them of their mistake

The Iraq had not first rate SAM-system. It was a mix from technology of the 60s and 70s. The double digit SAMs did enter service in numbers from the 80s, but not so in Iraqi service to justify your claim.

Sens and TooCool, would it kill you to google what you THINK you know, it would save me time correcting you and i didnt say they had the latest, just that it was considered first rate, formidable, very good, better than most and like terms

By 2002 Iraq’s military had modified its once standard Soviet-era air-defense systems with newer equipment from a variety of sources. The result was that Iraq’s air-defense systems were becoming amalgams of Western, old East European, and Far Eastern technologies that behaved in non-standard ways. That made them less predictable for the US and British planes that were their targets and they became increasingly difficult to counter. Assistance from the Chinese had been forthcoming in terms of laying fiber-optic cables between the various air-defense nodes, particularly in southern Iraq.

The Iraqi air defense system was formidable, combining the best features of several systems. The multi-layered, redundant, computer- controlled air defense network around Baghdad was more dense than that surrounding most Eastern European cities during the Cold War, and several orders of magnitude greater than that which had defended Hanoi during the later stages of the Vietnam War. If permitted to function as designed, the air defense array was capable of effective protection of key targets in Iraq.

no i wasnt talking about SP, i read here about it in one of the old rafale topics, i was just wondering if they could repost the vids here, i’m old and my memory of then is fading

i luv looking at vids and hearing how good the rafale is, i remember the last time with rafale and the f-22
the rafale fanboys said that in bvr there might be a competition with the f-22 but they were sure a passive mica ir would beat it

but WVR the rafale would whipe the floor with the f-22 because of the extreme agility of the rafale and had vids of the square dance and such to prove it
can we have a few of those vids of the f-22 showing what a slug it is compared to the rafale posted here as well, they were great

That passive VLO is limited to the X-band only. Without that the F-35 is dependent on active VLO like all the others. 😉

who told you that ?
and i think you mean active ew, rcs is one of of a group on signature management

heck does it really matter if the article doesnt support his view ?
as for slagging the f-35, if there’s a will there’s a way, even the colour will be wrong

Hello Wrightwing :
“”That was a nice display, but I didn’t see anything that caused disbelief.””

Yes , me neither . Just a nice display .

jackjack :
“”welcome to bluewings alternate universe””

??:confused: Sorry ? This is uncalled for 😡 What are you trying to say or archive Sir ?

Cheers .

wasnt that the display that only the rafale could do ? reminds me of the old days with all the talk about the cobra

the latest one today
http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.air-defense.net/forum/&ei=WC1ES8e1EcuHkQWGnon1Bg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA8Q7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dair%2Bdefense%2Bnet%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DtD5
have you got the link to this event yet ? doesnt the 2000 have friend or foe id ?

“”I ‘ll try to be a fair , honest and good poster . I also hope to share a lot “”
you crack me up bluewings, lots of ‘not the above statement’ examples over at SP

“He even quote the Typhoon not being able to reproduce what Rafale does”
i think the rafale would have better low speed agility to the phoon, most carrier planes do, low speed agility is a requirement to land the thing
what surprise me is why rafale didnt go for 2 wing designs, one for land, one for sea, the days of dogfights being the main design factor is over