quote ..[[That’s your opinion.
So, French developped a passive attack capability, spent a lot of efforts at reducing the RCS, and you come here and say “it can’t be efficient ! it doesn’t work !”
Man ! Please go in Saint Cloud, and teach our engineers how to build a decent fighter !]]

they did build a decent fighter, just not a magic invisible one
they say the f-35 is a golf ball, the probe is about the size of an orange, i dont think dassault is that worried about rcs or it wouldnt have an external probe for a start

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Who ?
My charts ? So you trust me when you want ! But what do you want ? Do you want Rafale to fit your opinion ? I asked you not to bring your prejudices here.

do you really want me to google french links that think the radar is short?
i have found you honest and havent set out to spin the facts unfairly

the F-35 is supposed to be a specialist in everything, that is a contradiction in terms

on top of that it is supposed to be cheaper than the F-22 which is specialised in air superiority alone

and now it starts showing badly that the above is just wishfull thinking

if Denmark bails out, and Australia does the same, then the unit price for the remaining countries will jump up and more countries will decline.

well i’ll bookmark this post and when its released that the f-35 is more technically advanced and superior to the f-22, i’ll get back to you
and the f-22 is priced at about 170m if it was re-ordered and the f-35a will be about 80m
but it wont be re-ordered, my guess is one of the black projects have hit pay dirt, hence the cancellation of it as well as the development flaws that would need it to be redesigned

sunshine, do i really have to tell you again that they use this tech for killing or avoiding ground based emitting radar, eg sams
it is very good at that,
where is the reference to targeting a fighter at at least 60k in your last batch of links

by the way, the bae link you love is actually trying to develop it for the f-22,35, time will tell if they get it working properly, but a 10-30% error isnt going to give missile fire control at 60+k
also i would retract your, “that’s from Bae which are hardly the most advanced on this topic”
because the yanks think they

sidelobe is the name, it doesnt mean it side radiates at 90deg to the center line

No, you said it was impossible to get a range from bearing information alone. No qualifier on type of plane or distance.

That’s the claim you made and it’s demonstrably wrong. So stop trolling.

If the plane is crossing the other plane frontal area… and its ECM are not working.

Besides if a plane uses its radar at full power, it can be tracked at more than 200km. Not a very survivable scenario IMO.

what, are you making it up as you go ?
its always been a rafale. 60k, mica ir
i also made reference to our old hornets having the latest ALR-67(v)3 directional rwr and that the typhoon also has directional rwr, so its not unique to the rafale, is it
one more point your own link doesnt support your claim, so who’s trolling ?
“””There is no closed-form RF-based passive ranging performance expression that captures all the cited parameters”””

if the planes crossing, you arent going to get a rwr activation, are you
at least think a bit before you post or are you running as blind as a rafale and still think your link proves something

except that the super hornet wasnt designed in the 70’s and is far from a 70’s design

no i said i dont think data for a passive 60k mica ir shot can be obtained from a single rafale

your link doesnt say what you claim
•no where is there a mention that it provides any accuracy for a missile fire
•they dont define what 10-30% accuracy is, my guess is its within 10-30% of the true distance is
60k at best 10% is +or-6k, you cant fire a missile with 12 k accuracy of distance

they also say
•There is no closed-form RF-based passive ranging performance expression that captures all the cited parameters
•With small (~2 Gs) sensor aircraft sinusoidal or 2-turn maneuvers, 10 percent range accuracy is achievable using angle and RF Doppler measurements

the rwr systems are used for stationary sam sites provide targeting information, the bearing of a radar be it a plane or whatever

i was refering to the meteor, i would have said further if i meant a ru/usa missile