I’m not sure that the Typhoon T3 beats the f-35 in this regard.
didnt i read that its down from 300 to 16 parts
its early days for the supply chain to be sorted, i think you are expecting too much
Yes, i said plenty of people, i was to repeat myself yet again.
One of these following quotes probably contain the 6th gen. comment.
well none of them said the f-35 wasnt 5th gen or that the f-22 is a 6th gen (UCAV)
would you like to try again, or simple retract your 2 statements ?
also your links dont work in your copy paste, can you fix them please
some of those LM quotes seem to be written by a PR guy, are you posting them to back your speed opinion, if so i would you like to debate them
obligatory, why are you spinning to me and ozzy what you said, its there for all to read in the last 3 pages both the f-22 and f-35 were discussed and you answered on both
go back reread and try again
ozzy said
Who? Certainly not LM or the US military. You don’t think the F-35A is a 5th gen fighter? What about the F/A-18C? Is it a 4th gen platform, it is “slower” than an F-4 after all.
you said
Plenty of people, i just didn’t bother to memorize.
i said
thats ok, you can tell it in your own words
or i’ll wait while you google the link to the plenty of people, kopp has a nice ‘the f-35 isnt 5th gen’ page. i guess that is one of your many people
you said
To my knowledge, Kopp has always maintained F-22 is a 5th gen. fighter.
can you give a link to the now claim that while some USAF guy thought it should be labeled 6th gen, becuase i havent heard that the f-22 is now a UCAV
typo ? as per your link, its for the f-35 and its joint norway/aussie
Never? Are you sure? The F-117 was replaced by the F-22 which are now responsible for the very missions you just described, no?
the f-35 replaces the f-117
you are right we have a good buffer for any delays of the f-35
and getting back to the hypersonics arument, i dont think aussies have much to worry about, as well as hyshot and hycause, we are developing space hypersonics, hypersonic mach 14 interbalistic missiles anyone ?
http://www.unijobs.com.au/read_university_news.php?id=1154
The University of Queensland will lead a $14 million international consortium to help develop scramjet-based access-to-space systems
“With the work performed by our domestic hypersonics community, including universities, industry and the Defence Science and Technology Organisation, Australia is internationally recognised as a world leader in this field of research and development.”
so it isnt limited to 1.6, is it
its not hard to do, even with a less thrust engine, if they wanted it to go m2 here’s a discussion on engines
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-13568-start-0-sid-4d37c37667244dcf887789585d485f6c.html
i agree it wont run around at top speed, 99% of the time it will be subsonic as is wanted
the sh replaces the f-111, the f-35 replaces the hornets and the sh
It either is thrust or aero limited, that or it is limited by the programming. Otherwise “design limit” is vague and doesn’t say much
this has been done several times but it doesnt stop the nonsense by them
the 1.6 was a min requirement which has been exceeded to 1.67 so far
thanks for that on the aesa, my bad
although i have an opinion, i didnt say it was capability, i said i thought it was over usa holding in trust some of the missile stocks
but they had aesa before malay made their decission
i’m just talking about both and slaging neither, i did say about the russian supply problem
just accept you were wrong, you are only making yourself look silly now
a warhead is a part of ‘weapon systems’
dont you know how long range contacts are tracked and intercepted ?
i gave you 2 names of aussie hypersonic tests on the last page, hypersonic/scramjet a2a and standofff missiles will come before hypersonic intercontinental missiles and platforms
“Plenty of people, i just didn’t bother to memorize”
thats ok, you can tell it in your own words
or i’ll wait while you google the link to the plenty of people, kopp has a nice ‘the f-35 isnt 5th gen’ page. i guess that is one of your many people
it makes sense to run just the su and the malaysian one is arguably the best version of the su
when our sh are deployed. it should be an interesting butterworth exercise, quite a few will swap the back seats and it wont be just wizzo’s
Even after the MKM purchase the Malaysians were desperate to get the SH BII. It was always their proffered platform AFAIK. The major problem was the lack of an AESA radar in the initial negotiations.
i didnt know they werent offered aesa originally
isnt there a recent offer to buy back their 18d for the sh/b2 ?
i heard one reason they didnt go with the sh originally was because usa held in trust the bulk of the missile stock, same as they did/still do ? with sg and russia would release the full buy to them