in vietnam, they were bombing supply lines by locating the magneto based ignition system under the tree cover
so rf tracking isnt exactly new
but wasnt the rafale and f-22 a wvr guns only event
http://www.livescience.com/technology/081107-f-35-fighter-jets.html
The F-35 will be able match most of the same high AOA manoeuvres as the Raptor, although it will not be able to do so as quickly as the more powerful jet in some cases. Turning at the higher Gs and higher speed portions of the flight envelope, the F-35 will “almost exactly match a clean Block 50 F-16 and comes very close to the Raptor”, Beesley said.
the four current test pilots for F-35 have been most impressed by the aircraft’s thrust and acceleration. In the subsonic flight regime, the F-35 very nearly matches the performance of its’ larger, more powerful cousin, the F-22 Raptor, Beesley explained. The “subsonic acceleration is about as good as a clean Block 50 F-16 or a Raptor- which is about as good as you can get.” Beesley said.
it doesnt sound too bad,
plus the toys, with statements like,
With [distributed aperture system], maneuverability is irrelevant. Instead of mutual kills, the F-35 simply exits the fight, and lets its missiles do the turning.
You are exposing your ignorance or lack of ability to comprehend again.
I’m just going to ignore you from now on after pointing out the following; the towed decoy you reference above is part of the IDECM system, not an additional element.http://www.baesystems.com/BAEProd/groups/public/documents/bae_publication/bae_pdf_eis_idecm.pdf
http://www.baesystems.com/ProductsServices/bae_prod_eis_idecm.html
thats a bit picky, and/with
Jack
By now, you should have noticed that i am not exactly an ignorant and that normaly i am prepared to back up what i write.
About this specific point you can find the relevant information in December DTI, page 43 in an article called “Double Vision” by Bill Sweetman (ps- what was the part of “triangulation” and “dinamic ranging” that you didnt understood?).Another thing, in your post (169) at 13:58 you have answered a question about the Typhoons IRST with a standard procedure of the Dassault Rafale, there´s no Laser telemeter in Pirate, but there´s one in the OSF.
– No, normaly i dont need to go to “air defense net” or to “Avions militaires” to learn something about a program that i have been following for almost three decades. But i do go there to learn about French programs.
yes i was mistaken, i thought pirate also had a laser range finder. my bad
ok, they get range etc normally from a radar/sar overlay ?
wvr the pirate as i said possibly by its self but i think it will be better with using with hms as a combination
for full bvr, i need to read up on it, its a big task with lots of variables did they give any indication what range is feasable
how is the pirate hooked into navigation to give a decent bearing to triangulate with other platforms or does that need help with radar
i’m unsure how the tracking works
you dont have to answer the questions, its more what i need to find out
i dont mind getting my butt kicked and shown where im wrong
Yes, Pirate can detect, identify, track and lock a bogey at BVR, and is used together with the AIM-120 for passive BVR shots (well, almost, the AMRAAM has an active head).
It was classified information until quite recently. You can find a description of the techniques used (triangulation via multiple Pirates with the data being exchanged via Link 16, or multiple readings taken from one single Pirate that is flown on a pre determined flight profile) in last months Dti, Bill Sweetman wrote an article about it (and a few more things).Cheers
you’ve been reading those froggy sites, havent you
i wont ask you to detail how this would be achieved, but for a giggle you can try and i’ll leave your first attempt alone while you think about it, its missing some stuff
did you do an edit while i posted, there seems a bit more info, but it still isnt enough
Doesn’t matter. He won’t be believed anyway…
😉
like the trolls here, no i dont believe it because i didnt see it :diablo:
besides its obvious you are lying, sweetman told me the f-35 is washed up and finished, just the scrap value left
it may have taken off, but i bet it didnt land
Much better informed members than myself have already made their points, sorry, got nothing to discuss with you here..
I refer to your post #416, answer 2.
which was a reply to toocool that he posted which read
actually, saying that the aircraft has 50+° ability in sustained flight means only ithat it was the control software programmed to allow maintaining of the balance while “sitting” on its engine… you’re completely unable to manouver at that point.
The air won’t follow the curvature of the wings at such angles unless the leading edges your wings are really heavily bent downwards, which would mean that that flight is in “post stall” conditions
my answer was
1 wrong, you still have lift, thats the whole point, not much manoeuvrings at 50 but drop the f18 to 40 and you can roll as per the post above,
2 wrong
as you can see the 2 wrong referred to and was covered in the first answer, but as you dont wish to discuss it, so be it
So in the end you’ve actually talked yourself round to agreeing with the original comment that the aesa radar isn’t the primary jammer…:rolleyes:
no, onboard the aesa is the primary jammer, but not the only jammer
as well as the aesa the fa-18 uses a AN/ALQ-214 and a towed decoy
but instead why dont you go and read up about it, then come back and slam me with your facts
There’s a considerable difference in the airborne surveillance capabilities that exist in 2010, and those that existed in Vietnam though. An enemy fighter would have to take a pretty circuitous route to avoid detection from the flight package the USAF/USN/NATO would have at their disposal.
i think, they wouldnt try and swing round to the tail, they would go for the flanks
but thats the idea of a total ‘systems’ approach to manage all of the battlespace
Again, what?
My comment stated that i didn’t agree with sferrins assertation, then went on to point out that as a tool to support the “aesa can be used as the sole a2a ecm” his assertation works very well.
You then come back telling me about aesa jammers and something about not just ecm?
Yes, we all know aesa jammers exist, as somebody else said they probably rock, so what?
Do you actually have comprehension problems?
i was addressing the total synopsis but focused on your
That is bunk.
It neatly supports the aesa radars can be the only ecm arguement tho…:rolleyes:;)
to make the point that in the battle space the aesa wouldnt be the only ecm, as well as onboard the current fighters are jammers, there are also the offboard ones as detailed in the post
Sorry if it’s off topic but
Can the Eurofighter Typhoon’s PIRATE engage and fire a AIM-120 AMRAAM?
Hope it’s not classified.Thanks
AFAIK, not really, doesnt give a 4d solution
possibly using with the laser and a LOAL short range missile, but the hms will be better
the pirate is more for target ID, i think
any other input ?
It’s called MALD-J and is made by Raytheon.
thats it, i’ve got eggtimers disease, i forget everything after 2 minutes 🙁
For the XF-92, you can also read “Yeager”, he mentions it as he was the USAF test pilot who had to test it after convair pilot failed to do enough progress with it.. he landed the thing at 44° AoA and 67mph on his second flight in it
this was an interesting read
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/FactSheets/FS-080-DFRC.html
he landed the thing at 44° AoA
sounds like a controlled crash, carrier style 😮
the XF-92 did 44° back in the beginning of the 1950’s (and there was no FCS to control the thing, it’s purely aerodynamic control), so one may say the deltas do quite well at high AoA (actually better than classic configurations)
anyway, and again, an F-35 that does 50°+ AoA in anything else than a straight line, I’d be curious to see that (and I bet I’m not the only one)
i’ll jusr copy paste my posts to you
again who said it did, i made no such claim of the f-35 or fa-18 which both have 55, like it or not
the nassa f-18 was just to show a moded platform that had 70 like the f-22
i found it interesting if you didnt
as to straight line, true and the same applies to deltas at 30
i’ll go and google the XF-92, sounds sweet
Many subjects can’t be discussed in a civil manner with some of the members; anything related to US provoke them Tourette syndrome :p
thats where i’m lucky we have had french, swiss planes etc as well as US ones
i’m pro no one, but i do like the f-35, gunna be a sweet ride
a look at the countries that supply aus in air sea and ground and it looks like the UN