That is bunk.
It neatly supports the aesa radars can be the only ecm arguement tho…:rolleyes:;)
there are 2 dedicated jammer platforms, one uav pod and the [starts with m-j kinda like a cruise missile]
i wouldnt say only ecm
The latest versions of the Eagle are quite some beasties in terms of T/W. They must give a hell of a kick when the pc is turned on!
all power, no finness, last build in 2012 by the look of it
Yawn.. Another thing this forum needs is another stupid F-35 fanboy who has no idea what he talks about. Funny enough, lack of knowledge is almost always compensated by pure arrogance and single-liner arguments in style : *you are wrong* without any further explanation.
Wake me up when F-35s start to fly around at sustained 55deg AoA..
i;m quite happy to discuss it in a civil manner if you are, which your wrong are you referring to
where did I say the F-35 goes to 70°? your link showed that a modified airframe of another jet (which, from the beginning was aerodynamically optimized for completely different performance type), with ways of control that the F-35 doesn’t have (nor ever will) managed a particular feat… nothing form that link shows anything that may eventually suggest that the F-35 would be able to do any AoA at all… it is completely different aircraft.. that’s one thing.
the second is, the 70° AoA was achieved through controls that have nothing to do with the lift provided by the airflow over the wing. At that point, the airflow is turbulent and you need other means of control which the F-35 (again) doesn’t have… and at 50°, to do anything besides a straight line, you’d need something similar in ways of control
again who said it did, i made no such claim of the f-35 or fa-18 which both have 55, like it or not
the nassa f-18 was just to show a moded platform that had 70 like the f-22
i found it interesting if you didnt
as to straight line, true and the same applies to deltas at 30
No i dont. Dont have numbers, but couldnt fail to notice that the Raptor crosses mach 1.7 on dry! The drag numbers must be something out of this world.
low drag seems the answer
thrust to weight has something to it, but not a lot as the f-15 has similar TW both loaded for the same distance with fuel
everyone else is a large step down, data from french site air defence
LOL i’l let someone else slap you silly over the post, why should i have all the fun
of course i get it and you’re misquoting me
love the skewing of data for your list, who did it ?
i’d say deliberately posting data which you know and has already been shown as wrong, is the worst form of trolling
Small groups of antennas has the drawback of low antenna gain and low resolution. Therefore the most stupid thing to do.;)
can you send an email to the usaf usmc usn australia singapore, [who else is buying aesa right now?] for me and tell them what a terrible mistake they have made and how stupid they are
its all starting to makes sense to me now, i wonder why everyone wants to go aesa, must be just a phase:diablo:
snafu, ever heard of awacs etc? the yanks arent going to play fair
,005 is a win to the typhoon
i cant be bothered with other factors, which arent public anyway, can you ?
edit, i just noticed you said the f-22 goes further, do you know why ? is it drag, engine efficiency?
you arent really silly are you ?
i showed you a f-18 that does 70
would you like me to show you the inproduction one that does 55
then i’ll show the the deltas that do about 30
who the F said f-35 does 70, it does 55, its the f-22 that does 70
LOL creditable links, but it doesnt support your view, even cola is quiet and isnt trolling this subject
would you like to see a f-18 that does 70 aoa ?
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/FactSheets/FS-002-DFRC.html
@ scorp, height and speed of both please and examples of a few heights so we can make sure one isnt in a bad and one is in a good designed altitude
i guess you’re playing this game becase the f-22 has higher fuel fraction
actually, saying that the aircraft has 50+° ability in sustained flight means only ithat it was the control software programmed to allow maintaining of the balance while “sitting” on its engine… you’re completely unable to manouver at that point.
The air won’t follow the curvature of the wings at such angles unless the leading edges your wings are really heavily bent downwards, which would mean that that flight is in “post stall” conditions.
What’s more, 50° AoA at any speed even close to normal flight speeds would result in such high acceleration (G’s) that the pilot would be blacked out almost instantly, and the airframe most probably damaged (if not broken)
1 wrong, you still have lift, thats the whole point, not much manoeuvrings at 50 but drop the f18 to 40 and you can roll as per the post above,
2 wrong
3 right and the wings would break off, it was said, speed appropriate
Why would the pursuing aircraft dive down to low level, trying to keep up, when it could remain at higher altitudes, where they wouldn’t have issues maintaining higher airspeeds?
because there are no opposing awacs ? and its low like the good old days, you know, what the rafale was designed for