No worries 🙂
Ahh the edit, what a fantastic shot at the top Paul, glad I rechecked the thread, that is a top shot I must say
Adam
I have this scanner, if you are fairly close to an airport they are great, if you are “below” line of sight then you may have reception problems but on the whole it is a great little scanner, you can also pick up overhead traffic too
Fantastic shots Paul, love the sillouette effect
Fantastic shots Paul, love the sillouette effect
These days, eager young ATPL students are far too busy to notice such things. No good will come of it.
Bloody ‘ell I wish I was young 😀 I guess in relative terms I may be 😉
Ahhh…. there was a time on the internet when people looked at a smiley like this 😉 and understood when a comment was tongue in cheek.
These days, eager young ATPL students are far too busy to notice such things. No good will come of it.
Damn, you mean we are supposed to have a sense of humour as well? sorry no brain capacity left for that 😉
Great shots Peter, love the Air France 146/Avro
Like James stated, great shots of the SW Dash & 146 Tom
Fantastic perspective on the Zoom 763 Peter, what a lovely bird
I just thought of another point Ian, (the spin thread prompted me) when approaching the stall at high alpha the airflow separates further & further up the wing as alpha increases, moving the CP forward, if you imagine a wing at high alpha with the separation point, let’s say for argument’s sake, ½ way up the wing chord, this will, in relation to the wing be separating and moving “upwards” away from the wing even though to the relative airflow it will be near horizontal, so in effect you have no downwash from the top of the wing, all you have is the relative airflow striking the underside of the wing, whilst all this is happening the aircraft stays airbourne, and I would have thought going on what I read in the first link if you have no downwash, you have no lift, but maximum lift is achieved at or just before critical alpha.
I start my CPL tomorrow with the CFI of my training establishment, I’ll put this argument to him to see what he “prefers”
Well I think Bernoulli’s theory must hold some water, even if it is only a small percentage, it does provide some lift, however small, the first link is indeed excellent and uses Newton’s theories very well, I think the thing with Bernoulli is the theory is relatively simple and easy to explain, probably why it is inherant within the training structure especially at PPL level, Ian you fly the 340 for Virgin so maybe you can clarify, generally aircraft have their CP aft of the CofG, which creates stability, and this stability causes a nose down pitching moment, this is why the tailplane has a downward force & negative angle of incidence which forces the nose up and level again, but the Airbus has it the opposite way? i.e. the CP is forward of the CofG, which means that the tailplane must cause an upward force to cause a nose down pitching moment to counteract the nose up tendancy (our ATPL instructor told us Airbus manufacture in this way), but one thing I have noticed with the Bus is that the tailplane appears to have the same angle of incidence as Boeings etc, if this is the case what causes the pitch up moment? surely the downwash theory must hold true for the tailplane as well? because if the first link I gave is to be believed, Bernoulli’s theory would suggest that there would not be enough lift provided by the tailplane airfoil?
(of course if my instructor was talking out of his proverbial disregard the above 🙂 )
If the downwash theory was conclusive, I wonder why member states (particularly JAR & the FAA) have not embraced it and use it in ATPL theory, or do you think it is a case of saying “ahh, the lift theory we have been using all these years is wrong, we need to use this now” ?, does this point to the fact that the downwash theory is not conclusive enough? or does it point to the fact that member states have been teaching the wrong theory all these years?
Qantas = perfect, great pic Phil
Si
Thanks for that
Any idea when FCA are to start flying the 763 from Bristol?
Ian would this be something along the lines of the downwash at the trailing edge caused by the airfoil shape obviously means air is being removed from the top surface, and this air has to be replaced, so it “sucks” air from above the wing also to replace the downwash causing an increase in velocity and a reduction in pressure?