Well they just accidentaly happened to be in the European championship finals two years ago and now again in semifinals, so I would say they earned they place…
…or mayby agaisnt England you don’t need to try so hard 😀 (just kidding)
well how much it difference from the fact that US threathens to Intervene militarily to the situation??
Everybody, including even Iranians themselves knows that they cannot whipe israeli out of map, but in other hand they know that US is more than happy to conduct a yet another ‘liberation’ of some poor old muslim country.
When Irani leaders boast, its boasting and you know it, but when US or Israel does it, you should begun to dig your bombshelter….
well how much it difference from the fact that US threathens to Intervene militarily to the situation??
Everybody, including even Iranians themselves knows that they cannot whipe israeli out of map, but in other hand they know that US is more than happy to conduct a yet another ‘liberation’ of some poor old muslim country.
When Irani leaders boast, its boasting and you know it, but when US or Israel does it, you should begun to dig your bombshelter….
Is it just me or does all this sound just A LITTLE bit sore looser talking???
Portugal has played a nice tournament and I have bed them to be on top four and they hell yeas deserve be in there…. :rolleyes:
Is it just me or does all this sound just A LITTLE bit sore looser talking???
Portugal has played a nice tournament and I have bed them to be on top four and they hell yeas deserve be in there…. :rolleyes:
Yeah yeah, Isreal, the leading star of the democratic world…It was the Democratic version of Germany that build the Wall….so are we seeing a patttern, with the freely elected demorcatic israel building a wall around palestinains… :confused: 😉
If one religious nutcase country can have nukes, then why not the other? Counterballance, you know. Its not about wheter you have “democracy” agaisnt good old dictaturism, It’s down to who will use the nukes…If Iran have nukes, it will make USA and Israel think twice they use their own nukes agaisnt them and vice versa…
Yeah yeah, Isreal, the leading star of the democratic world…It was the Democratic version of Germany that build the Wall….so are we seeing a patttern, with the freely elected demorcatic israel building a wall around palestinains… :confused: 😉
If one religious nutcase country can have nukes, then why not the other? Counterballance, you know. Its not about wheter you have “democracy” agaisnt good old dictaturism, It’s down to who will use the nukes…If Iran have nukes, it will make USA and Israel think twice they use their own nukes agaisnt them and vice versa…

It can be placed so that the all the superstructures manifest some sort of menacy rather than poor seakeeping….
Thougth In Convays all the fighting ships 1947-1995 has a picture of it whit errosleysly dimensions and the ship looks there alot longer thus not making it look much more normal “eastern” big combatant….
Anyway Marasesti was build in the grandiose and megalomanic later years of Chaucescus rule. I heard rumour that it was orginally laid down as passenger cruiser but then converted to a warship thats is completely out of any tactical purpose, its weapon and radar systems are more like of Tarantul-1 class missile Fac than of destroyer size ship…no AAW nor ASW. One thing that intrest is that it is usually quoted whit diesel engines that can drive it up to 32 knots 😮 😮
Actually many non Americans believe that the ones fighting against the ISAF in Afghanistan and those who find their way into Gitmo are terrorists.
So you admit that you accept the general created myth of this terrorist to justificate all the actions conducted by heroic and divine western ‘liberation’ troops in Agfanistan? That you are either against us or whit us and if choose the against part, you are bloody terrorist????
Which of course justifies everything. Please give this charade of equivalence a break. I believe (today, right now) that serial murdering is my forte and I go on and conduct a few attacks – would that make me equivalent to professional soldiers and the code of conduct they usually abide by, in civilized countries?
Some of those in Gitmo were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Others like John Walker Lindh chose where they wanted to be and paid the price. Is that really so hard to discern!
This of course is more rhetoric…and I do wonder how long you can keep this up. Or are you being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian?
I am not even western but can certainly testify that those fighting the ISAF in Afghanistan are terrorists, and the likes of Zarqawi who chose to attack civilians by intent are definitely terrorists.
It does matter as to who does the killing. In any civilized nation state, whose rules we all agree to abide by, the task is mandated and done only by professional soldiers, whose code of conduct and rules of engagement are decided by the nation state. In the case of Afghanistan and Iraq and many other places besides, when anyone can conduct an attack purely directed at civilians for the sake of creating and sustaining a feeling of terror, these people are not soldiers, they are terrorists. No amount of moral equivalence and trying to posit that all soldiers are killers & since terrorists kill they too are soldiers will change this basic fact. Heck, even if you Venn diagram it, it wont work.
No, you try to stick blindly on the generated and somewhat bit too conviediently constructed moralrule that people who are trained and profesional can kill otherhumans becouse they believe its rigth and those who arent cannot. Rules of engament and fuzzy propaganda speaches of freedom and democracy doesent give ISAF or Iraqi occupators any more or somehow more arguable morale reason to kill other humans that these ‘demonic’ terrorist has. They are all doing the same, all the end results are the same, and ironically, all the motives are usually the same 😉
Actually many non Americans believe that the ones fighting against the ISAF in Afghanistan and those who find their way into Gitmo are terrorists.
So you admit that you accept the general created myth of this terrorist to justificate all the actions conducted by heroic and divine western ‘liberation’ troops in Agfanistan? That you are either against us or whit us and if choose the against part, you are bloody terrorist????
Which of course justifies everything. Please give this charade of equivalence a break. I believe (today, right now) that serial murdering is my forte and I go on and conduct a few attacks – would that make me equivalent to professional soldiers and the code of conduct they usually abide by, in civilized countries?
Some of those in Gitmo were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Others like John Walker Lindh chose where they wanted to be and paid the price. Is that really so hard to discern!
This of course is more rhetoric…and I do wonder how long you can keep this up. Or are you being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian?
I am not even western but can certainly testify that those fighting the ISAF in Afghanistan are terrorists, and the likes of Zarqawi who chose to attack civilians by intent are definitely terrorists.
It does matter as to who does the killing. In any civilized nation state, whose rules we all agree to abide by, the task is mandated and done only by professional soldiers, whose code of conduct and rules of engagement are decided by the nation state. In the case of Afghanistan and Iraq and many other places besides, when anyone can conduct an attack purely directed at civilians for the sake of creating and sustaining a feeling of terror, these people are not soldiers, they are terrorists. No amount of moral equivalence and trying to posit that all soldiers are killers & since terrorists kill they too are soldiers will change this basic fact. Heck, even if you Venn diagram it, it wont work.
No, you try to stick blindly on the generated and somewhat bit too conviediently constructed moralrule that people who are trained and profesional can kill otherhumans becouse they believe its rigth and those who arent cannot. Rules of engament and fuzzy propaganda speaches of freedom and democracy doesent give ISAF or Iraqi occupators any more or somehow more arguable morale reason to kill other humans that these ‘demonic’ terrorist has. They are all doing the same, all the end results are the same, and ironically, all the motives are usually the same 😉
Why didn’t you just say “no they don’t fight for any particular nation’s army so they can’t be considered soldiers under the Geneva Conventions”?
But isen’t Iraq or Talebans army adequate enough for being treated like a soldier?…It’s just juridical BS…Take away your human rights just becouse you don’t wear the right badges…
Why didn’t you just say “no they don’t fight for any particular nation’s army so they can’t be considered soldiers under the Geneva Conventions”?
But isen’t Iraq or Talebans army adequate enough for being treated like a soldier?…It’s just juridical BS…Take away your human rights just becouse you don’t wear the right badges…
hey, Marasesti is a good loking ship…in certain angles :rolleyes: 😉
Anyway, I’ve never really understud the idea of the two OTO guns in the B position…wouldn’t one single gun, bigger in calibre in the A position (and to move the Sylvester VLS more closer to the bridge) be more cost’effective??
Are you saying you don’t know the difference between a soldier and a terrorist? If those sitting in Gitmo are soldiers, tell us please which nation they fight for (Allah, Islam, etc. isn’t a nation).
Yeas, Terrorist are all the ones fighting agaisnt USA and Isreal and soldiers are those heroic mens defending the marvelous states mentioned above…thats the one you wanted to hear right 😉
They guys sitting in Gitmo are mostly just normal dudes happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time…and those others, Talebans and Iraqi insurgents are soldiers, they fought for the cause they belived to be right…wheter you liked it or not…
…But ofcourse to you all those non-western fighters are terrorist so why bother to expalin it furhter…But let me ask you, when your primary task is killing, does it really matter what you are called?
Are you saying you don’t know the difference between a soldier and a terrorist? If those sitting in Gitmo are soldiers, tell us please which nation they fight for (Allah, Islam, etc. isn’t a nation).
Yeas, Terrorist are all the ones fighting agaisnt USA and Isreal and soldiers are those heroic mens defending the marvelous states mentioned above…thats the one you wanted to hear right 😉
They guys sitting in Gitmo are mostly just normal dudes happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time…and those others, Talebans and Iraqi insurgents are soldiers, they fought for the cause they belived to be right…wheter you liked it or not…
…But ofcourse to you all those non-western fighters are terrorist so why bother to expalin it furhter…But let me ask you, when your primary task is killing, does it really matter what you are called?