I can try…but as usual, there are exeptions to make the rule…the point is you cannot hide form the fact that USA bans companies selling products to countryes which it holds under embargo….
Well, I’m not living within potential Iranian-ICBM range like you guys. If you feel comfortable with Iran having nukes, given the state of Iranian politics as of late AND their proximity to Europe, then fine.
I think it’s just easier to prevent them from building nukes than it is to intersept them on their way to our European friends.
hehe.
Well we don’t have anything against Iran, so why would they attack? To date the sole country ever threaten us with nukes are USA so with the same logic i should be more worried of theirs…
Well, I’m not living within potential Iranian-ICBM range like you guys. If you feel comfortable with Iran having nukes, given the state of Iranian politics as of late AND their proximity to Europe, then fine.
I think it’s just easier to prevent them from building nukes than it is to intersept them on their way to our European friends.
hehe.
Well we don’t have anything against Iran, so why would they attack? To date the sole country ever threaten us with nukes are USA so with the same logic i should be more worried of theirs…
Actually it would be good that Iran have nuclear weapons, it’s good counter force for Israel, a nucleapower blessed by USA…status quo…
Actually it would be good that Iran have nuclear weapons, it’s good counter force for Israel, a nucleapower blessed by USA…status quo…
foreing company
That’s my quote
and yours…
Have we banned France, Germany, or Russia since they traded with embargoed Iraq?
So I’m often critised by my poor english skills by you among, so enlighten us stubids, does company mean same thing as country :confused: :confused:
rational? hell no…
Example:France and Russia both did big business with Iraq both pre and post 1991 Gulf War. Canada does business with Cuba, etc.
When there’s money to be made people/counties make it.
If A US company can’t do something, I’m sure no one in a firm’s boardroom in London, Paris, Moscow…even Helsinki…is going to say “No, we better not do that as (name the US firm) will be upset.
Well barbarian said it…There are cases when foreing company have sold products to countryes that are embargoed by USA have then issued a ban to US markets, so it’s only rational to assume that USA uses similar policy toward NK…why would they make an exeption, when NK is definetly the “worst” of all these?
So we at Helsinki are going to say, “No we must not trade with North-Korea, becouse we might upset some “#ยค%& in Wasington and get banned from US markets…” ๐
I am not arguing that imposing a embargo is unjust because a whole nation is made responsible for the mistakes of some few idiot leaders. But again, with or without US embargo, N. Koreans would still be starving. And this isn’t US fault.
Well US companyes tends (those who do export) to be rather big…and well connected. So lifting the embargo would have serious effects on wheter the NK are starving or not. Becouse one fact is nondepateble when talking about NK, none really knows what goes on there. We can make assumptions and choose what to belive acording to our ideologic, but we cannot say for certain…so basicly I cannot be sure if they would “stop starving” but I guess my proclaim is more possiple than yours ๐
June 1950
Yeas, 56 years ago!!
Well my point aurcov is, that no matter why it is so, USA is the one making the embargo and there is no way to justify it, not in NKs case and definetly not in Cuban case. Have NK brought it to themselves? Did the jews brough the holocaust themselves when they were mostly upperclass bourgerous which upset certain persons in Germany???
War is war, embargo is embargo, killing is killing and wrong is wrong…justifyed? All justice and moral is dependant of those in power to distripute it…
Pure BS! US can only forbid US companies make business with NK. Other countries could. So, NK is by no means “isolated” by US. It is isolated by its clown dictator
Like the sanctions against Cuba?? Where every company dealing with Cuba is banned from US market for next following year…So If you shoot a person, it was his own fault that he died, nothing to do with the guy pulling the trigger…
…If we all live in denial like so many in here, world actually might be rather pleasent palce to live ๐
AN-26:
Fit in 2 howitzers on each sides.
mean firing??? ๐ฎ ๐ฎ Golly smoothly disappears when they start selecting the gungroup :diablo:
Well I did a brief google survey and here’s what i found:

quite weird…I mean there are lots of different sizes of proposals and designs being published, funny that now they are actually making one and nothing is released. But about those suggestions that you mentioned, is it based on anything existing (didn’t you mention about strenghted Tawlar) or are there just purely numerical info?
any scethes or artistic impressions about this 22350?
Is it going be for the Russian navy?