Who’s making attacks on Cuba?
Mainly some US government supported organisation consisting mainly those Cubans fled to USA after Batistas regime fall…I apologizes, I don’t have the names at this moment, but I try to dig them…
edit: I didn’t found anything in english, but if you have a translation devices, here’s a nice article http://www.kominf.pp.fi/L3index.html (tough you propapaly claim it being nonsense, like os many other who are in crusade of big bad anti-americans π )
Not when someone is making factually inaccurate statements solely for the purpose of ranting against the big, bad USA. I bet 90% of all anti-US folks still use Windows though…
Yeas, I use Windows, our Linux isen’t exactly for us casual users π But I’ve said many times, I have nothing against american peoples, and nothing against most products that they export…But I do have something agaisnt injustice, unfairness, hypocrisy, opression and greed, and unfortunetly the US government have a habbit of being all of them…
Nice try, but the issue is Venezuela’s support of the FARC, which has been on the list of known terror groups for some time now.
who’s list? :rolleyes: in the same list with the guys making attacks on Cuba??
It is easy to dismiss any American concerns as being purely on behalf of national or economical interests, but it is not very constructive to do so. It is not naive or left-wing to question US policy, but it is very naive and indeed left-wing to simply dismiss everything the US does as being the result of self-interest!
…agreed, but then again, did I say “everything? :confused:
the concern is that Chavez is getting involved in the politics of other countries – look at Peru, where he tried to help the leftist candidate
Isen’t it funny, but I recall that USA tryed to involve the elections which ended up Chavez victory in his homeland…so someone meddling with others buisness…don’t you think it’s rather lame to use that card to us “US bashers”? (lkie SOC so nicely put it)
About the content of the treaty, I cannot say anything certain, but I doupt it makes any difference between countryes that already posses the technology and those who doesen’t. The reaction of US is completely different…
And what comes to Chavez training terrorist…well isen’t it funny that when someone is threating US national and economical intress, they are terrorist and when not, then just plain freedom fighters…
…is it so hard to digest the fact that Venezuela people finaly said no to im…better not speak any more, you see all those who critizes US policy are just naive and leftwinghish… π
Well the range just happens to be exactly the maxium range to fit the regulations, so it leaves a bit misty feelings…but I think it’s more likely that Star49 is wrong…or anyone other claiming so. But the fact remains that Klubs are exported, so I guess they fit the regualtions….
Russia is forbidden by treaty from exporting Klub to Venezuela, under the MTCR. Maximum range of exportable cruise missiles is 300km.
:confused: :confused:
But then how is Russia able to export them to India and China? Perhaps becouse the missile has a reported range of 300 km… :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I was just about to ask the same…
I dont know but I have always kinda liked Volksmarine’s ships….

They look like soviet made, but still whit disguintish domestic appeal, …and way much clasyer and elegant than polish ships…
1. Thick as A brick ….by the Jethro Tull
Top ten song titles
10. Kashmir
1. Thick as A brick ….by the Jethro Tull
Top ten song titles
10. Kashmir
I noticed the GΓΆteborg class corvettes being mentioned in some Yugoslavian forum, but my serbocroatian skills prevented me of knowing more…So they are planning to buy them or is it just a proposal from sweden?
1. Awake in the morning and discover that you have become impotent
top ten birds
10. Osprey
1. Awake in the morning and discover that you have become impotent
top ten birds
10. Osprey

it was always a glory moment when the dragons stormed trougth the sky when I was little….first I was scare of them and their thunder but as bit older I grow to love them….so sad that those days are gone π
It is true the the US has caused a lot of problems by backing dictators against the Soviet Union, but I support the war. We see the results of terrorist bombings in Iraq all the time, but many forget are just not aware of the huge numbers of Kurds and other Iraqis killed by Saddam Hussain, and the MILLIONS killed by the wars that he started. Under Saddam, people may not have lived in fear of bombs going off next to them as much as they feared someone coming in the night to take them away. Death was a familiar thing under Saddam. It may be bad there, but its better than it was.
Thats statement looses pretty much credibility if we take consider the fact how in the US belowed ally, Turkey Kurds live under milk and noney flown from Turkeys goverment.
Can you answer how it is that in country that have no oil and stable US supporting goverment, an ethnical minoritys liberation movment (Kurdistan workers party in this instance) is decleared terrorist organistion, but in the neighbouring oil rich and allowedly anti-US country theyr couse is somehow supportable????
It is true the the US has caused a lot of problems by backing dictators against the Soviet Union, but I support the war. We see the results of terrorist bombings in Iraq all the time, but many forget are just not aware of the huge numbers of Kurds and other Iraqis killed by Saddam Hussain, and the MILLIONS killed by the wars that he started. Under Saddam, people may not have lived in fear of bombs going off next to them as much as they feared someone coming in the night to take them away. Death was a familiar thing under Saddam. It may be bad there, but its better than it was.
Thats statement looses pretty much credibility if we take consider the fact how in the US belowed ally, Turkey Kurds live under milk and noney flown from Turkeys goverment.
Can you answer how it is that in country that have no oil and stable US supporting goverment, an ethnical minoritys liberation movment (Kurdistan workers party in this instance) is decleared terrorist organistion, but in the neighbouring oil rich and allowedly anti-US country theyr couse is somehow supportable????