Ok Soviet neverwheres and what-if part I:

Some carrier programs…

Starting from the uploading order:
1. Carrier derivate of the Project 69 battlecruiser
2. Proposed helicopter carrier version in pr. 68bis cruiser hull
3. Project 1160 nuclearpowered carrier, the first Orel
4. Project 1153 nuclearpowered carrier, the seccond Orel
5. Pr. 10800 Khalsan, ASW helicopter carrier version from the Atlantika class Ro-ro ship
6. Project 11780, amphibious assault ship project
7. Proposed helicopter /VSTOL carrier
8. Preliminary suggestion for pr. 1126 helo carrier
9. Another one
10. Pr. 85, Medium carrier project (similar size to Foch and Clemencau)

Its the truth. Everybody exercises, we dont get all upset when any other country exercises its forces do we?

Yeas exactly…

…then why to get upsetted when russians exercise? If Sweden sails to the coast of Spain and fires few RBS-15, would there be thread tittled “more swedish porn”? Or any other country for that matter?. I doupt. But when russia does it, suddenly all this ranting and bashing.

What makes this whole thing more than just “everyone exercises”-type of notice is that this is the first time in russian era when something like this happens. It deserves attention and constructive discussion but unfortunately the issue is being ruined from the start.

Yeah nice thread…When I get home, I try to post all the important soviet never-where’s and what ifs…

Ps, as a wish-list, there were model of possible bigger version of SK Ulsan desing for Taiwan that featured SM-1 launcher and helo-hangar…Anyone got that pic? (it used to be on older recarnation of http://www.china-defense.com/forum)

My old Merzedez drinks around 9 liters per 100 km and 1 litre of bensin cost approx. 1.40 € at the moment.

Now last time when the gasoline prizes were discussed in here, Americans had to pay around half of what we europeans have to pay….not to mention those ridicilous SUVs propably eats douple that of my mersu which by our standarts is one hell of a drinker!!

This americans trying excuse themselves from the fact that their country consumes numerically and relatively more than anyone else is mere BS. Its equally ridicilous to point the fingers towards european nations. Yeas we consume and polute alot too, but at least in here there are strickt restrictions and governments that actually give a damn about whole issue…The bensin pize is good and painfull reminder of that.

…There should be some swedish greeneis taking over the governing of USA for few years, I bet my hat that that way if not all, but alot of current proplems would be solved and world would be one step closer to the right path..;)

Finland (almost 90% of US consumption per head, a higher usage per unit of GDP – but it’s explicable by its industrial base. Low population density, BTW.

Yeap…tough, alot of our energy is comming from either biomass or natural gas…

“When the bear roars, all the pro-western forumlingers ****s their pants…”

Its freaking hilarious:dev2:

But on more serious note, is it Kh-65 that they are firing down there?

Well the question is then, Who is up to the task? I can draw few once in a while but the ships takes most of my drawing time at the moment and in near future.

I can however draw one or two “instruction” images and draft some ease guides of how to draw and then perhaps anyone can do it