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  • in reply to: American Education !!!! #1923971
    Gollevainen
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    Too many blows to the head

    well the guy did choose rather intresting after career by male-striptease dancer
    …so who knows;)

    in reply to: General Discussion #298869
    Gollevainen
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    Like Matti Nykรคnen, the famous finnish ski-jumper once said, “If Im not getting elected into the national team, I will move to Copenhagen and aply for swedish citicenship”:rolleyes:
    Perhaps its more to do with the profession rather than nationality

    in reply to: American Education !!!! #1924032
    Gollevainen
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    Like Matti Nykรคnen, the famous finnish ski-jumper once said, “If Im not getting elected into the national team, I will move to Copenhagen and aply for swedish citicenship”:rolleyes:
    Perhaps its more to do with the profession rather than nationality

    in reply to: General Discussion #298929
    Gollevainen
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    I would say lots of things based on that, But Im kinda tired of my anti-american label, so I wont say nothing;) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

    in reply to: American Education !!!! #1924066
    Gollevainen
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    I would say lots of things based on that, But Im kinda tired of my anti-american label, so I wont say nothing;) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

    in reply to: Stalins post war naval revival and the RN response. #2044974
    Gollevainen
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    Here’s my few thougths (incomplete) over the Soviet Carrier devolpment, that by passes this issue as well.
    http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/professional-discussions/soviet-carrier-development-lessons-china-well-858.html

    in reply to: Stalins post war naval revival and the RN response. #2045035
    Gollevainen
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    Other question mark is around other surface combat orientation in Western navies. Would they have invested also in the earliest point to Anti ship missiles? Or would they have relyed on their airpower? What would have that mented for the early jet-age in aircraft carrier operations, that (atleast in US part) were so much hyped by the rivaly between the Air Force of Strategical strikes?

    Also, If Krutshev wouldn’t have been on power, it would have been likely that the Soviets wouldn’t have invested so much on Submarines, and that correlates directly to the heavy ASW orientation in Western fleets. I think we would have seen lots of intresting desings in the ASuW role.

    There is certainly lots of “What ifs” in this topic. Too bad that the internet’s active never-where desinger club seems to be so oppsessed with their Battle-ship romantics and Springsharps, and sofar I haven’t seen any real effort of redesing the western fleets according to different threat:(

    in reply to: Stalins post war naval revival and the RN response. #2045045
    Gollevainen
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    Taking account of that passion, and IF the program would have been fullified by at least some stance by larger capital Units, eq the pr.82 (even in their last missile configuration) and the Carriers, There is always question, wheter the West would have been so fast by scrabing their own Battle ships and heavy cruisers

    in reply to: Stalins post war naval revival and the RN response. #2045076
    Gollevainen
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    The “Stalin’s oceangoing fleet” as its often called dates back to the pre-WWII era first annouced in the 1937-42 five year plan. Several monsterous plans were drafted total of increase 630 000 t of the fleet. One of such called 24 battleships, 20 cruisers and 350 submarines and destroyers.
    The plans rationalized over the years and the number of ships decreased. Interestingly enough aicraft carriers did emerge to the plans as early as 1936.
    Final version before the war asked 6 Battleships, 2 carriers, 4 Heavy (battle) cruisers and 17 light cruisers, 12 flottilla leaders and 191 submarines.

    The industrial base was set up for the huge build-up but it was obvious that it wouldn’t have been possiple to complete it even if the war wouldn’t had broken. Yet it laid basis for the overall growth of VMF and some of the ships in that plan actually maided. The Battleships were of the project 23 which four were laid down. Two pr. 69 Battlecruisers were laid down also. The carriers were presumably the pr. 71 (based on pr. 68 hull) and the light cruisers itself the pr. 68 Chapaev, the only ones of the larger ships that were actually completed tough only after the war.
    The war naturally ruined most of the plans and for example none of the capital ship designs were ever completed. Altough the war had mixed effects on the overall soviet naval capacity, it was toughted that in that current position a large naval build-up wouldn’t have been fruitfull. Yet the plans continued and several studies were made to learn the lessons of the war. In 1945 a plan called for 4 battleships, 10 battlecruisers, 30 cruisers, 54 light cruisers, 6 heavy carriers, 6 light carriers, 132 large destroyers and 226 destroyers.
    In those plans, there were few very interesting designs. The battleships would have presumably been pr. 24 and the heavy cruisers divided between the famous pr. 82 and more rare pr. 66. The latter was interesting ship, 252 meter long, 30 000t full load and armed with 220 mm guns (like pre-war pr. 25). The 30 cruisers were intended to be the pr. 65, with either 152mm or 180mm guns.
    Neither the pr. 66 nor 65 never materialized. To speed up the building, Stalin ordered improved version of the Chapaev design called pr. 68bis (Sverldovs) and the pr. 66 hanged around untill the “revolution in military affairs” put end to it as with all other large surface combatant plans in 1956.
    Of the 54 light cruiser or about the carriers, I know very little, my toughts about the carriers can be seen in SDFs proffesional forum. The destroyers were merged to single 250 batch and like with the cruisers, a modified war-era design, pr. 30bis was chosen instead of any new ones (pr. 41 most likely)
    The naval build-up was in constant motion and envolved alot during the post war years right untill the death of Stalin himself. Between the years, another strong mastermind behind the soviet fleet, Admiral Kuznetsov spended time in exile as Pacific Fleets commander. Kuznetsov was a strong advocate for carriers and tought their importance decreased during his exile, he retrived the plans as soon as he returned to his post. He was also one of the very few who dared openly to speak against Stalins plans and often tried to convince the stubborn premier from his queer devotion to battlecruisers.
    In the last years of Stalin’s era the battleships were cut down in favour of the pr. 82, Stalin’s favorite child and the carrier plans were returned in the shape of pr. 72 and 85. Kuznetsov made few historical desicions to replace the pr. 41 Neustrashimyy class destroyer (the plans were later sold to china and formed the base for 051 Luda class) with pr. 56 Kotlin and pr. 42 Kola class SRK with pr. 50 Riga class. In both cases the reason was rude, simple and yet weird; they were considered too large and therefore smaller designs substituted them.
    After Khrutsev took over the controls, all the “conventional” naval build-up plans were cancelled and it ment the death for bot Battlecruisers and Carriers. Altough Stalin often walk over the carrier plans in favour of more “interesting projects”, he never completely denyed them nor purposefully tried to cut them down for the sake of them being carriers. It was his follower who really was to blame for the lack of true carrier force never emerged in Soviet Union.

    in reply to: General Discussion #299149
    Gollevainen
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    anytime;)

    in reply to: lewis hamilton #1924226
    Gollevainen
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    anytime;)

    in reply to: General Discussion #299150
    Gollevainen
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    could be true, BUT I doupt you can put all of McLarens misschiev under that explanation. If Kimi’s rather common finnish approach to communications would be the fault, He would have suffered same things with Ferrari, wouldn’t he;)

    in reply to: Ferrari vs Mclaren #1924230
    Gollevainen
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    could be true, BUT I doupt you can put all of McLarens misschiev under that explanation. If Kimi’s rather common finnish approach to communications would be the fault, He would have suffered same things with Ferrari, wouldn’t he;)

    in reply to: German/Russian Baltic Sea Plans #2045229
    Gollevainen
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    Added to that for example here in Finland, the elecricity consumption is rising approx. 10% per year and it’s seems to be sort of a standart, no depression or other changes affects on it. With evergrowing need for power and demands to cut down the greenhouse gases, you don’t have to be a wizard to figure out whats the trend will be in next 20 years. Nuclearpower is the only choise with these consumption rates, unfortunetly.

    in reply to: General Discussion #299182
    Gollevainen
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    Its spelled and written Mika with one K…

    Anyway, Hรคkkinen did had more luck with the Mclaren than Kimi as the all the five years he spended in that team were constant strugling with the mechanics…Its ironical that only after the last finnish guy quits the team the reability proplems are solved.

    …Thank god the days when you returned to the TV prodcast after comersial brake there’s a Mclaren smoking in the side and the reporter says “Don’t be frieghten, its only David Couthard…” are over.

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