Well my situation have changed a bit. I found out that in my trades common workterm agreement each employer is obligated for 2 vacation days per month. As my workperiod is 6 month long I have totally of 12 vacation days (and note thats my summerjob!). I took 5 days now so at the moment i’m on holliday:D …..but then again just spended a full day labour by masoning my parents sheds foundation in +25 degree (thats equal to sahara to us finns;) )

Well I was merely kidding around, everyone is free to draw what they wish.

But for your actual request, I’ve seen that sort of cut-way drawing from the side of Kiev which shows reveals some of the comparaments but not from above. I try to dig it out…

Edit: here’s someting from fast sweep

Edit 2: I found few bigger and better images of Kiev and Baku but they are too large to be uploaded to here, so check out this link http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/MK/2004_04/Draw/index.htm

What you are about to do with the drawings Ja?

just for general note, I’m planning to draw Baku (and Kiev as well) for the shipbucket in near future so thanks for the Kiev drawing from my part…and don’t dare to go and draw it before me:mad: 😡 ….:p 😀 😉

Well, the arrays for the Type 052C’s should fit. So, wouldn’t they be the most likely choice?

Hard to say as we still know so little about the radars. In carriers in general you don’t need so heavy airdefence orientated radar suite. If the radar system onboard 052C can be used effectively only in the air-surveilance role than why not. But someone with more knowlidge of radars in generally can propaply awnser to that better.

The real nonsensical thing I can see here is that some people were fighting for peace. How contradictory is that ?

Isen’t those who are forced to take arms when facing offensive measures from others? Eg. Country A attacks to country B, isen’t the mens from country B fighting to keep a peace? You could always nitpick that don’t fight but is occupation really a peace:confused: :confused:

Anyway that doesen’t matter in this case becouse those peace-activist were hardly “fighting”. But in generally hats of to them, its always glorious to oppose against imperialistic warmongering:dev2:

The bit about Chile does not even make sense, what are you trying to say that democracy is evil becouse Chile once bought some planes.

He isen’t saying that democracy is evil becouse Chile bought planes, but that how douple-standartly UK has acted. Right hand speaks about demorcacy and how evil some dictatorship is in some place and left hand sells weapons and supports dictators elsewhere. Isen’t so hard to understand is it?

I find it sickening that you condone the terror attacks in the UK yet you expect Israel to just sit back and let Hezbollah bombard the north of the country with rockets, kidnap Israeli soldiers and pursue the destruction of Israel- not realy that disproportionate after all.

Equally sickening is that with those excuses you approve massmurder of thousands civilians, destrcuting infrastructure from hurders of thousands and making the whole land a disperense-mutinion wasteland which will cause civilian damages decades further…
Freedom of Israeli soldiers invading sovreing state is quite high isen’t it?

The answer is many other counties don’t care about what goes on anywhere else. (as an example, it was primarily the US, UK and France that protected the Kurds from Saddam.)
Too many in the world seem to have the attitude of
“As long as they JUST want to kill the Jews, Americans and Brits….I’m okay mate…”

Don’t assume that this has anything to do with Iraq.
Remember, the World Trade Center attacks (1993 and 2001) came long before the invasion. This is a jihad…more of a reverse “Crusades” than anything caused by Bush or Blair.

Did I assume that its something to do with Iraq? Well yeas but in far bigger scale than you may first assume. Its rather silly to say that those countries that doesen’t suffer from terrorism doesen’t care what happens out there, we for example have contributed to UN peacekeeping missions a huge deal considering our resources, and yet we don’t suffer of any sort of terrorism…

It’s nothing to do with caring what happens around you, its all down to good ol’ imperialism. Those countries that have no “national intress” outside their borders seldom suffer from this sort of primarinal emotional outbrusts which most terrorist acts are. Those countries protecting those interest eg. push their noses to others buisness with only profit in their minds are those who suffer…no matter how much you silver the lines…

so like I said, its everyone’s choise do what you will, but remember there’s consequenses…