The answer is many other counties don’t care about what goes on anywhere else. (as an example, it was primarily the US, UK and France that protected the Kurds from Saddam.)
Too many in the world seem to have the attitude of
“As long as they JUST want to kill the Jews, Americans and Brits….I’m okay mate…”Don’t assume that this has anything to do with Iraq.
Remember, the World Trade Center attacks (1993 and 2001) came long before the invasion. This is a jihad…more of a reverse “Crusades” than anything caused by Bush or Blair.
Did I assume that its something to do with Iraq? Well yeas but in far bigger scale than you may first assume. Its rather silly to say that those countries that doesen’t suffer from terrorism doesen’t care what happens out there, we for example have contributed to UN peacekeeping missions a huge deal considering our resources, and yet we don’t suffer of any sort of terrorism…
It’s nothing to do with caring what happens around you, its all down to good ol’ imperialism. Those countries that have no “national intress” outside their borders seldom suffer from this sort of primarinal emotional outbrusts which most terrorist acts are. Those countries protecting those interest eg. push their noses to others buisness with only profit in their minds are those who suffer…no matter how much you silver the lines…
so like I said, its everyone’s choise do what you will, but remember there’s consequenses…
You reap what you seed…
Ever asked yourselves why is that the islamistic extemisist keep on attacking on certain western countries and not generally against anything that comes form here? Why is that its usually either USA or UK or those who activily supports their actions that gets the heavy blows?
You stick your finger to beehive to get some honey, most likely you get nasty stingholes…your choise…;)
You reap what you seed…
Ever asked yourselves why is that the islamistic extemisist keep on attacking on certain western countries and not generally against anything that comes form here? Why is that its usually either USA or UK or those who activily supports their actions that gets the heavy blows?
You stick your finger to beehive to get some honey, most likely you get nasty stingholes…your choise…;)
but I found the Who a bit predictable, I never liked Tommy anyway.
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THEY DID TOMMY?? Good god, for someone like me who worships Tommy, that is really marvelous news!
Expecially when its only bit over a week for their visit to Helsinki, when we finns finaly have a change to see them (or what is left of them)
but I found the Who a bit predictable, I never liked Tommy anyway.
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THEY DID TOMMY?? Good god, for someone like me who worships Tommy, that is really marvelous news!
Expecially when its only bit over a week for their visit to Helsinki, when we finns finaly have a change to see them (or what is left of them)
is it relevant wheter they are intereptions or officals?? The issue was that you wondered the possiple connection to the OPH from the pics and I said that based on those, the relation is stricking.
Wheter it would have been case in the reality is rather pointless to think, becouse the ships were never build, At least I have spoken only about the pics and the key OPH like features of them, perhaps you got me wrong or something…:confused:
No we cannot, but what we see already from the outside is enough to determine that the ship is clearly related to OPH. But I think this is one of the “taste” isssues so I think its pointless to argue it further, don’t you think?
Seeing as we cant see below the waterline or any of the internals and these pictures are conjecture I think that is pushing it a bit.
…or that I see what I want and you dont;) Anyway, my eye always tryes to look the ship as whole from the first clance and start lookin similarities to previously seen vessels. In this case the funnel and bow as well as rear superstructures are so obviously from OPH, It makes me wonder why someone wonder why that is OPH related…becouse she so clearly is!
??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: ???
The relevance to OPH in certain key shipbuilding areas such as hull form and placing of porpulsion is the ones that makes it easy to spot as a cousin to OPH. Superstructures can change dramatically, but that that doesent alone make a ship, almoust quite contrary.
Martin’s drawing takes some liberties IMO, but in the “conjectural drawing” the relevance almoust hits you in the eye
Actually my toughts also, this ship does look alot like the Spanish ship. I’ve often wondered where is the Bazan class based on, mostly it looks like a down sized Alreigh burke, but perhaps its based on the spanish OHPs…
But I disagree with the “little resemblance to OHP” comment. It looks actually exactly like you would imagine OHP with strenghted hull and huge Aegis radars fitted. The hull lines are quite similar and the location of the powerplant is almoust identical to the earlier ship.
….yeah in the old days….everybody step back when a young mang walk by….they step BACK…..;)
Humans nor other animal are not physically mented for living in prosperious enviroment where there is food way beyond the cruisal limit of survival…when you are not forced to make hard physical labour for getting even the minimal ammount of nutritions result is what is evident today. Its quite obvious.
But then again western capitalistic culture cannot survive if you don’t spend your money on various irrelevant stuff (called consumer goods), like food three times a day, so what can you do:confused:
….yeah in the old days….everybody step back when a young mang walk by….they step BACK…..;)
Humans nor other animal are not physically mented for living in prosperious enviroment where there is food way beyond the cruisal limit of survival…when you are not forced to make hard physical labour for getting even the minimal ammount of nutritions result is what is evident today. Its quite obvious.
But then again western capitalistic culture cannot survive if you don’t spend your money on various irrelevant stuff (called consumer goods), like food three times a day, so what can you do:confused:
Pah, another example of the deliberate forgetting of facist crimes. In here and other parts of eastern europe, its almoust criminal to mention Hitler’s slaughters if not in same sentence someone mentions that Stalin killed lot more thougth:mad: 😡 😡
I think its disgusting…along with that ridicilious atempt to make communist and socialism as offically “banned” as are NAZIs….the sings arent good for the future of EU. If one wants to draw wilder speculations, one migth wonder, wheter EU leaders are silently understood the political power of facist ideas in the growing struggle against illegal and legal immigration from Africa and muslim nations.
then again, last nigth was the midsommer nigth, and pretty late one, so it migth be my hangover paranoi if nothing more:D
Pah, another example of the deliberate forgetting of facist crimes. In here and other parts of eastern europe, its almoust criminal to mention Hitler’s slaughters if not in same sentence someone mentions that Stalin killed lot more thougth:mad: 😡 😡
I think its disgusting…along with that ridicilious atempt to make communist and socialism as offically “banned” as are NAZIs….the sings arent good for the future of EU. If one wants to draw wilder speculations, one migth wonder, wheter EU leaders are silently understood the political power of facist ideas in the growing struggle against illegal and legal immigration from Africa and muslim nations.
then again, last nigth was the midsommer nigth, and pretty late one, so it migth be my hangover paranoi if nothing more:D
I use my name simply to advertise my book (wich is still on the desk drawer:rolleyes: ) if I ever get it published…or even finished