‘As for museums pleading poverty -it’s often for the reason that they don’t actually have any money hence why my dealings with them have very infrequently involved money and often parts have joined museum projects at cost to me and not them!’
Very commendable that you can afford to ‘give’ items to museums, but having been a founder member of Tangmere back in the ’80’s ,we had buy some of the more interesting exhibits by raising bank loans (secured against our individual properties) and paid back to us on museum receipts over the following years. These items proved to be the ‘kick start’ for the musem to grow into what it is today (plus a great deal of hard,time consuming, free time work over many years).
Many exhibits were donated, and an increasing stock value of those items has accrued as substanial financial bonus to the Ltd company of the Trust. Charity begins at home, and I do tend to choose project buyers over private collectors wherever possible. I also believe that objects of historical interest give an enormouse satisfaction to those that buy them, and the circulation created, opens up new interest to another generation.
Collectors, bless them, collect and save these items for their satisfaction, but sooner or later they sell and swap them for whatever reasons, at a profit. Hence Aeromarts, auction houses, Ebay ect.
Please don’t tell me that a Hurricane, cockpit project, Spitfire control column, is recirculated at its cost price.
Some superb ‘back chat, on the forum today….good to air these things…..I’m more a ‘doer’ than a ‘talker’ in these matters and must back the ‘doer’ people, ’cause they produce results for us to ‘talk’ about.
Where the aircraft is cannot possibly determine where it should stay, unless the ‘stayers’ get there first.
If all the lost, then found, aircraft had to stay in the ‘find’ area, Kent would have one in every garden.
Even better, if it is found, recovered and eventually reaches a point of restoration for flying, isn’t that what we on here, are all about.
It sometimes takes a lot of time, money ,heartache, and persistance to locate a crashed aircraft. Even more money and time to get it restored and possibly flying.
Those opportunities are becoming less and less, so good luck to Steve and Gareth, and if they make some (dirty word coming up) PROFIT !!! from the exercise, then remember too, that whoever restores it, will also probably take a future profit out of it.
We should all take the profit of satisfaction, that maybe another Spitfire will be handed on to a future generation, hopefully as keen and interested as we all are
I think the three Fw 190 incident that took place at West Malling were defectors. My father introduced me to ‘Brian’ (I don’t remember his last name)an ex RAF officer who flew Beaufighters from West Malling, and was stationed there on the night they arrived. His account was that the first aircraft landed successfully, and taxied up to a dispersal area. The second one crash landed on the runway, and the third one crashed in an orchard short of the runway, killing the pilot and destroying the aircraft.
He recounts that the German pilot of the first aircraft immediately gave himself up to the incredulous RAF groundcrew and arriving officers, and was reported to have said that he was glad the war was over for him.
I do not know if the second pilot survived his runway crash.
One of those stories you don’t forget, but wonder about?
Yep ! I’d go with Harvard or Yale….I have seen pics of captured ‘Texans’ in Luftwaffe hands.
Something slightly odd with the elevators….but maybe that is just the angle of a fuzzy shot.
I have had the problem (for about 6 months) of only being able to open one headline page, after that it takes so long to let me into the next one that I have to give up…..I don’t come on here much now because of this problem…..wake up somebody, it isn’t just me or my PC. Don’t have anything like this problem on any other site I use….!!
Original pics taken outside the ‘new’ Hendon building circ 1970’s ?
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I had many pleasant dealings with Ron in the ’70’s and 80’s with light aircraft and engine parts. I flew into his strip near Marwell Zoo, hoping never to have engine failure over the tiger enclosure. He was a lovely guy, and his knowledge of cloth aeroplanes, Gypsy engines and all things to do with light aviation, was second to none. His loss will be sorely felt by all who knew him. RIP Ron…
A MUST watch….terrific…
Jeeze guys …I’m sorry I misled you…I saw the Wyvern outside 43 years ago…So I got my shades of grey and duck egg blue wrong….did you like the other pics, or shall we continue the paint hue conversation….don’t know why I bothered !!
Thanks Robbo…Blue and white too………….I didn’t think I was dreaming, although I remembered the Buccaneer as well. Great pics.
It was a long time ago, but I’m sure it was the Eagle engine Wyvern…one of the reasons I went there. Don’t think I’m wrong……
The first time I saw it, many years ago, it was outside the entrance to the display ‘hangAr’ and definitely painted in white and darkish Blue. Someone will have a pic. I’m sure.
Hi Rob, yes it is on display again with no paint…..looks strange in polished alloy….
Just had a real spat with a guy on another blog about the Supermarine 510 VV106 in the hangar is in fact a 517.
Checking my facts, there appears to be several opinions both ways…..who’s right.?
More !
Skyraider, RR Eagle engine, Barracuda front end and U/c legs.