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  • in reply to: ATC Squadron instructional airframes #988035
    xtangomike
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    I’ve been puzzling over the picture of the Hector that I posted. Judging from the lack of much forward of the cabane struts, I assume that someone has had the Napier Dagger out of the airframe – but equally there appears to be a propellor blade in the photograph. Maybe its not a propellor blade but just a deceiving shadow on the shiplap cladding of the hut in the background of the photograph.

    No, it is not the propeller. I have zoomed the pick and looked at it long and hard. What you see is in fact a shiplap join and as you say the aircraft does not appear to have the Napier Dagger in situ, so again no prop.

    I am fascinated and very grateful to Avion Ancien for posting this probably ‘only’ photo of the mystery aeroplane at Connaught Road Boys School, Littlehampton, in West Sussex.

    Back in 1992, myself and Andy, under our Tangmere museum hat, visited the school after hearing strong stories of a ‘vintage’ aircraft having been buried in the school air raid shelters at the end WW11.
    With the eventual permission of West Sussex County Council, we were able to carry out a very early terrain (ground) radar search of the area pointed out to be where the air raid shelters used to be. Unfortunately for us, a ‘new’ post war classroom had been built slap bang over the alleged burial ground. We had metal readings on both sides the building, and came to the conclusion that whatever was left of the aircraft was under a slab of concrete with a class room on top.
    A further search of a nearby hedgerow brought to light a largish piece of aileron which gave proof to the stories of the Hectors existence.
    There was no way the local authorities would allow us to even probe the ground so close to their classroom building, and so another ‘find ‘ entered the annals of history….until this year….when I was prompted by a story that the school had recently closed. I drove down to Littlehampton with by now, many years of experience of (not) finding the ‘absolute certainty’ of buried treasure, but a glimmer of possibility that the long wait might bare fruit, just for once.
    It was not to be….this school had been enlarged to accept pupils from a smaller local school. The headmistress was more than helpful and knew a little of our previous visit. Yes, the classroom had been removed …but in its place, is now a tar macadam volley ball/any ball play area. Strictly not for digging up !!! she said, politely.
    I shall however, with your permission a.a. show her your photograph, and at least now try to find some local names and hopefully…memories.
    You never know….tarmac can always be replaced in the holidays

    in reply to: RAFM Wellington #990433
    xtangomike
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    It was a Frazer Nash V turret, found complete with spent .303 casings in the canvass collection bags inside the turret.
    I found it in a scrapyard near Tangmere, which was being cleared for development, and had reached ‘end of WW11 level’. I purchased it, along with some Lancaster bomb racks, and loaded the turret on the back of a Mini pick up (wish I still had that!). With a friend sitting in the Turrett holding a couple of broomsticks poking out of the gun ports, we drove the 10 odd miles back home, enjoying the poor old motorists faces whilst they were being ‘shot up’ by my rear gunner.
    A Sqd Leader Dymond from the RAFM was contacted by myself shortly after, and he and a 5 ton truck with a couple of AC Plonks arrived, it seemed, just after I put the ‘phone down.
    I think the bomb racks were for S sugar, and obviously the turret was for the PRU Wellington, as it was described to me at that time.
    I would be delighted to buy it back at the price I sold it for if the RAFM don’t want it any more !!!!:eagerness:

    Some of you may remember two Wellingtons with faired noses as large background features in ‘The Malta Story’. The scene was Jack Hawkins giving Peter (Alec Guiness) his suicide order to ‘go and find them’. One of them is probably the RAFM a/c.

    in reply to: What constitutes a war grave? #1006117
    xtangomike
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    Isn’t it incredible to realise how much suffering and loss of young lives on all sides was caused by one man with a silly moustache and a bad hairdo…unbelievable !!!

    in reply to: What constitutes a war grave? #1008284
    xtangomike
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    in reply to: The Dambusters – the future #1011193
    xtangomike
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    I imagine, like with the Lancaster, they will have to remove the bomb bay doors and have the bomb hanging slightly beneath the aircraft.

    Let’s hope their first bouncing bombs will be on Brussels, and all the unelected EU chronies who suck the lifeblood out of our country !!!

    in reply to: Why did Britain Fight the Battle-of-Britain? #1011295
    xtangomike
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    I am suggesting that, had an armistice been offered in 1940 (and I don’t know that one was), it may have been a wise move to accept it (and then break it when it suited Britain).[/QUOTE]

    “Just not cricket old boy…I mean we chaps just don’t do that sort of thing ye know…break our word after making an agreement with the Hun?…not possible.
    Let’s just show him how weak we were…lull him into a false sense of security….and then bash him hard on the nose and continue to beat the life out of him. That’s the only thing these German chappies understand …What !!!

    in reply to: Classic WW2 Aviation Film question #936812
    xtangomike
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    “Septic calling…Septic calling……tell the Tiger our race will have to be delayed…indefinitely……….over “

    xtangomike
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    Oh dear…here we go again….!!!!!

    in reply to: Seen on eBay – 2013! #944885
    xtangomike
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    Scramble Bill
    why do you end your sentences with all these………….? Is this what you were taught at school???????????????????? My sister-in-law does it too and I find it very annoying…………………………..I’d just like to know the reason……………………….
    Thanksssssssssssssssssssssss
    Pete

    Nothing wrong with posting like that……..makes life easy to post….I do it all the time…..never had a complaint yet…………….if they don’t like it, they don’t have to read it…

    in reply to: Thailand — Ki-43 Oscar Wreckage Recovered #945946
    xtangomike
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    20-25ft depth…16-18ft wide…heavy clay soil…probably flat out dive and most of the aircrafts broken up on the surface. Some cockpit parts and maybe a gun or two….depends whether the locals had a go before the dig…..very interesting to see a ‘dig’ in the far east. Must be hundreds more out there….Mmmmmm!

    in reply to: Blimey they've dropped in price #949322
    xtangomike
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    PRICE SLASHED to Clear! Incomplete static example available from £8000.

    Another great opportunity brought to you by Jet Art Aviation!

    Now a Choice of six! This listing is for one aircraft of your choice left remaining from our line, see the last photo.

    Any marketing company worth its salt would realise, that trying to sell this number of expensive toys, in what is, a very restricted world market place
    would be virtually impossible at even those prices.

    cheap to buy and expensive to run or expensive to buy and cheap to run makes no difference today.
    The spare cash is not around any more. Even if it was, too many on the market pulls the price down and the individualityof owning one disappears.

    Good idea at the time guys, but…….even museums don’t have that sort of cash.

    in reply to: Goodwin Sands Dornier progress thread #949336
    xtangomike
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    Research by the Air Historical Branch and RAF Museum has identified the aircraft lying on the Goodwin Sands as probably being Dornier 17 Z-2 Ser No 1160 of 7 Staffel, III Gruppe/KG3 (7th Sqn of 3rd Group of Bomber Wing 3).
    http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=52618

    I see we have a probablyword in front of what we read not so long ago, which was definately Dornier 17 Ser.No 1160.

    I would have thought by now the RAFM would have had time to corroborate their original statement, with all the added crew names and combat details (Defiant and all that) Goodwin Sands etc.etc.

    Any definitive statement from those who should know …..??

    in reply to: Goodwin Sands Dornier progress thread #955763
    xtangomike
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    Came across this interesting picture of a Do17 on wetlands on the Sussex coast, after a belly landing an what appears to be soft mud/sand. It would seem it has suffered a serious amount of damage and is in much worse condition then ‘our’ 17.
    I believe this may indicate that the water landing of our aircraft is much more likely than the suggested Goodwin sand ‘then flipped over’ scenario suggested by others.

    in reply to: Goodwin Sands Dornier progress thread #955801
    xtangomike
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    Sadly Gryfon, it’s not the ‘right’ aeroplane. It isn’t a ’17’ with Bramo Fafnir engines…it’s not a B of B aircraft, no attacking England qualifications, no ‘shoot down’ history…and it’s not upside down in 50ft of water…Also, and most importantly, it’s not the ‘last Do17’ in the world.
    I doubt it would cost £800,000.00 to recover and place in a museum, and seemingly it is in better condition, but its an old 215….no way as important as ‘our’ 17. What do we want with another Fuhrer’s aeroplane. (sarcastic bu..er …who..me ??)

    in reply to: Goodwin Sands Dornier progress thread #957157
    xtangomike
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    Lets hope some of them know how to reconstitute fresh air into metal, corrosion into metal, salt water into metal ect., and then put a big picture of a Do17 alongside all that, to show to the post war kids, exactly what they are looking at.
    Then watch their faces when you tell them, that all that cost £800,000.00 and counting.

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