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  • in reply to: Rafale news #2554223
    antoine
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    Hello,

    Just a few informations about the dutch evaluation. This evaluation was based on technological and operational criteria.
    Jack, why are you claiming against clear evidences that it was only an economic evaluation ?

    One Source :
    http://www.dedefensa.org/article.php?art_id=84

    “A surprising and important detail had been made public: the technological and operational evaluation by the RNAF of the three candidates. According to the RNAF criteria, the JSF had been graded 6.97; the Rafale, 6.95; and the Eurofighter Typhoon, 5.85. This grading is surprising because it compares aircraft which seem only marginally comparable….”

    in reply to: F/A-18 E/F FOR GREECE? #2510770
    antoine
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    Greece selected the Eurofighter Typhoon in 1999 as the winner of its fighter competition. The plan was to order 60 aircraft plus 30 options in 2001 with deliveries beginning in 2005. When the deal was ready and only the contract signature standing out the greek government refused to sign and delayed the procurement after the times of the Olympic games in 2004 due to financial reasons. Meanwhile a new government is in duty and this has decided to reopen the contest. 30 F-16 were purchased as a stop gap and greece reduced the numbers for a new generation type to 30 aircraft plus 10 options. AFAIK a final decision has now been postponed to 2009 again because of financial reasons. The greek are now open for all bids be it F/A-18E/F blk.2, Rafale or Eurofighter. We will have to wait.

    AFAIK, there was no competition in 1999. The EF has been choosen without open competition with other fighters. Did i miss something ?
    I read too that LM proposes the JSF for the new competition.

    in reply to: Mirage 4000 multiple bomb rack #1803867
    antoine
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    In good old early 1980s, French displayed several times (Le Bourget 1981, 1983, Farnborough 1982, 1984?) the Mirage 4000 with a large multiple bomb rack under the centreline pylon, with 9 x 250kg bombs. I am looking for as more as possible pictures of that rack, to make a drawing.

    Hello,
    I only find this one. Hope this help.

    in reply to: Best subsonic fighter of the 50's #2540227
    antoine
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    ….
    -5- Dassault Mystère
    Paid by US taxes, an interesting machine keeping Dassault in the aviation military business. Could have been a bigger success if the market wasn’t flooded with free Sabres and MiG-15s/17s. Served well in Israel, never got developed into anything thanks to US-built AdlA MAP/MDAP stuff (F-86K, F-84G, even F-100).

    Not totally exact. The development of the Mystère was paid by the french government, exactly the “service technique de l’aéronautique”. No US funds or help at this stage.
    In 1952 an US mission tested the prototype for NATO. Finally, the US government bought 225 Mystère which have been offered to ADlA.

    in reply to: CVF News #2086965
    antoine
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    But this is very different from standard collaborative arrangements. It’s a British programme which the French are paying to join (1/3rd of what’s already been spent, in staged payments). Leadership will remain with the UK. There’s no workshare argument possible, because there is no workshare agreement. We build ours, they build theirs. They get the right to use the design, & will modify it to suit themselves. That’s the deal, & both sides seem happy with it.

    AFAIK, if the French change their minds, they can pull out at any time. We keep their money, they keep a copy of everything done up to that point – because they’ll have paid for it.

    Only scope for a big argument, as far as I can see, is if we change our requirements so that they become incompatible with theirs, & I presume we’ll have made promises about that. If they change their requirements so they’re no longer compatible with ours, well, that’s their problem. They can pull out, as above.

    AFAIK the two programmes are independent. French are not joining the british programme, they have their own programme leaded by DCN and Thales.There is a MoU at a political level, which allows french programme to use the CVF design made by Thales. There is a true willingness to stay as much as possible compatible with CVF, but the french navy specifications are pretty differents from the british ones (Rafale, E2C, combat system etc.).

    in reply to: The best SSK till date? #2087020
    antoine
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    chill sir i just made a tech comparison 😀 .. ultimately it comes down to crew , commanding and tactics.. 🙂

    but seriously we need a ssn type of ssk like collins class …
    scorpene can carry only 5- torpedos :confused: worthless :confused:
    our kilo was better than tht….

    You have a bad information. Scorpene can carry up to 18 black shark torpedos.

    in reply to: Mirage III all variants in all country [Pics] #2560840
    antoine
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    I am surprised to hear Ja speaking so positively of the Miracles, they certainly were not well liked by many in Oz. The French blocked their use on operations in Vietnam, and threatened to cut off spares supplies if they were deployed. That does not make for a great bargain (buying 116 aircraft, but not being allowed to actually use them as desired not making them very useful). Certainly the impression I have received was that they were not well liked – they were reasonably capable, but there were always rumours of problems with the Atar engines (not an uncommon problem, only really fixed in the later versions of the M53 engine apparently).

    The Mirage III O were fitted with a Rolls-Royce Avon RB.146, not ATAR engines. So ATAR has nothing to do with the rumours you mentionned …

    What is the link between M53 and ATAR ? This is two totally different engines.

    in reply to: Saudis to buy 72 eurofighters #2560842
    antoine
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    sounds like france’s “support” for the middle-east despotic regimes came to nothing. the british rode in with steel boots, kicked around saddam & the saudi created taliban, are kicking around his followers and diverse bands of islamists and still get to eat the black_forest_butterscotch_cake.

    gotta hand it to the brits.

    Could you please precise what you suggest by france’s “support” for the middle-east despotic regimes ? Is it as stupid as it seems ?

    in reply to: Saudi Arabia's next combat aircraft #2605857
    antoine
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    Ahmed Ali Shah,

    On this forum I red a lost of enormities, but I don’t think that I’ve heard anything more funny as your nationalistic posts :p . Pakistani pilots achieving kills against Isralesi pilots? In your dreams!!!!!!!!!!!! :p 😀 :p 😀

    Totally agree. the posts of Ahmed Ali Shah are a good complitation of dreams and completely false informations.
    For the part i know (Dassault, Mirage 2000-9 and Rafale), this is good mix of false informations and dreams …
    Thanks at least to the UAE to have bought Mirage2000-9 to please Dassault. Who is going to thrust that ? 🙂 This is simply ridiculous. As the dream for the pakistanis to have been able to test the Mirage 2000-9.

    antoine
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    Not really. Czech AF will have to pay for a 10-year lasting lease of 14 Gripens plus training and $950mil offset approx. $670 mil, while Gripens are roughly M2000-5 class.

    I am positive that this shall be M2000C-RDI machines. And it is still very good deal for Brazil..

    I confirm. The proposition is about leasing Mirage 2000C – RDI radar. Not -5.

    in reply to: Why the Rafale? #2608994
    antoine
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    Hi Puffadder,

    I’m new on this forum.I’m surprised by what you suggested below:

    [QUOTE=Puffadder]
    The RBE2 architecture originated in the USA- from Texas Instruments actually (Thomson was a partner on the program). The USAF was considering going for a passive array but then dropped the idea and went “balls to the wall” for an active array. That’s how the PESA technology migrated to France.
    Let’s face it- they’re the only ones who could actually pay for the development.
    QUOTE]

    Have you any evidence of this ? May you give some details ? I have really difficulties to admit that TI gave enough information on such technologies to Thomson …

    Thank you
    Antoine

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