What people most fear is that the M2000C doesn´t have Mica capability. It would depend on an upgrade, which is uncertain. If the plane comes without Mica capability, the further upgrade would almost certainy postponed and postponed and potponed (as was the FX decision and others)…

The result: in 5 years, or ten, the situation would be almost as ridiculous as it is now, with Super 530D-equiped, paleozoic planes, waiting for an upgrade or a replacement that will never come.

Cope India was held Feb. 15-28 at Gwalior, about 150 mi. south of Delhi, where the Indian air force has its Tactics Air Combat Development Establishment, which operates late-model MiG-21 Fishbeds as fighter escorts and MiG-27 Floggers as strike aircraft. Aerospace officials who have heard the classified brief on the exercise say the MiG-21s were equipped with a “gray-market” Bison radar and avionics upgrade.

Mica-armed Dassault Mirages 2000s are also stationed there. Brought in for the exercise were Sukhoi Su-30s (but not the newest Su-30 MKIs) carrying simulated AA-11s and AA-12 Adders. There also were five MiG-29 Flankers involved in a peripheral role and an Antonov An-32 Cline as a simulated AWACS.

“The outcome of the exercise boils down to [the fact that] they ran tactics that were more advanced than we expected,” Snowden says. “India had developed its own air tactics somewhat in a vacuum. They had done some training with the French that we knew about, but we did not expect them to be a very well-trained air force. That was silly.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1237790/posts

Do the Indian M2000s (“H”, I suppose) have Mica capability? :confused:

bon dia meu CE 😀
our good friend Flex Two-Niner-Seven has precissely said so.
our M2k-P still has the Monopulse RDM, works good for A2G, but i wouldnt put it on A2A in todays neighborhood 😮 it scares me :p
and, yes, the Armee de L’Air did a mod on the 2 seatter, RDM equiped M2k-B based at Cazoux for the MICA experiment, so, clear, it is possible to mod the RDI to “fire and forget” MICA’s
to finish, there are no MICA’s in Peru 🙁 very sad but true.
you know, this “thing” with the French, SOOOOO EXPENSIVE 😮

Brasiiiiil, meu pais tropicaaaaal 😎

Camaro (o mais bello carro do mondo)

Hey thanks Camaro (V8!?) for the info, much appreciated. This Cazoux experience will probably have its place in the hype surrounding this (putative) Brazilian purchase.

I totally agree with you regarding the price of Mica, and that seems to be the case with most active-radar BVRAAMs – even the Derby seems to be awfully expensive, as a coleague of ours said at Acig, in the Why Derby thread.

Best regards to Peru and Canada (soon I’ll be there 😉 )…

Hi Ja,
For now, there’s no official interest in military versions of EMB-170/190, neither from FAB, nor from Embraer. On the other hand, people in general are slowly gathering facts and coming to the same conclusion as you: any 170/190-derived platform would have a grat advantage over EMB-145 when it comes to payload and range. But, for now, it’s just a thought, nothing more.
cheers,

Yes, the whole Su-35 marketing strategy is flawed. Had they marketed some kind of “Su-30MKBr”, there would be nobody saying it’s a paper plane.

One can see that by looking at the MKM deal for Malaysia: nobody says it’s a paper plane, but it isn’t that less a paper plane than Su-35 is.

But…but…when Lockheed does that, it’s supposed to be bad…

The Embraer lobbying IS considered bad here. Most people understand that Embraer did a lot of bad things regarding the F-X contest.

Regarding Su-35: I agree that the argument about the Super Flanker not being mature doesn’t make sense. You have MKI and MKK as mature platforms, and the Su-35 clearly benefits from that. The “there are only a couple of Su-35 in the Knights” argument is not correct because you have MKI and MKK ready to go now, and a monoplace Flanker wouldn’t demand a development from the scratch as many people try to say.