Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind.

No. Frequently used, but a complete misdirection. Who’s doing the sowing and reaping? Civilians don’t do much sowing of anything in total war that has escalated to city bombing. They just get turned into statistics and ashes. By both sides.

Civilians, whatever their lives, whatever their beliefs, moral or political, are rarely guilty of the actions for which they are ostensibly ‘punished’ by aerial bombing, if one subscribes to the ‘wind/whirlwind’ model. I would venture that the motivation is to destroy production bases, manpower, materiel and morale.

The notion of revenge upon civilians for a greater wrong committed by others is the logic of the terrorist, the bus-bomber, the beheading kidnapper. I would not ‘credit’ our strategists of the time with that motivation, whatever the handy catchphrases designed to maintain the support of an angry population for the strategy.

This looks more likely.. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=anime

This is a good cartoon, like Michelin starred food is good grub. I wouldn’t insist on Anime as opposed to cartoon – especially as it’s either a Japanese misapprehension of the French phrase (dessin anime), or a shortening of the American-English word ‘Animation’, both used to describe.. a cartoon.

But yes. A very good cartoon!

Doesn’t the known fact that one of the Naval personnel pictured was a submariner, and the ASW scheme (as opposed to anything FAA), suggest Ballykelly and the joint-service Anti Submarine school as per my posts and links above, based at HMS Sea Eagle but using Lancasters out of RAF Ballykelly, as first suggested by Airfixtwin?

According to this source – http://www.avroshackleton.com/Ballykelly.html – the Joint Anti-Submarine School (RN and RAF) had it’s own Lancasters at Ballykelly (presumably on charge with the RAF at the station, but as a joint unit doubtless taking up naval ratings): “and the RAF’s JASS Flight, based at a now re-opened Ballykelly, initially equipped with two Lancasters, one Warwick and one Anson”

Hi all!

Does anyone have a tail wheel fork for a DHC Beaver?

Re Codes –

I would tend towards ‘ED’ as unit codes for 12AGS, based upon just one reference I have found, here: “On 12 October 1943 Reuben Edward Foulds was on board an Avro Anson I with serial number LV139 and unit markings of ED-4 of 12 AGS (Air Gunnery School) on a gunnery training flight. The aircraft had taken off from Bishopscourt, Northern
Ireland, but lost the target and then their way in poor visibility.”

This is from http://rotherhamwarmemorials.weebly.com/south-anston.html

Cheers,

Matt

Would you walk into a bar you had never been to before and start insulting all the strangers present based on a single overheard conversation?

No-one is impugning the character of the author, and certainly not calling him names. This is an established and often quite erudite forum, and behind the sometimes daft user names and ‘banter’ are some respected and very non-anoraky contributors.

There is a degree of cynicism which will be applied by those who.. to be frank.. have heard so many stories like this one, but nothing personal is meant! There’s a chance, but I imagine you can tell by the responses of those who do know their subject – and many here do – it is seen as a miniscule one. I hope that the original poster will understand.

I meant the cost to make it into something comparable as a museum piece, not an assemblage of corrosion. Or conserving it to freeze the decay and thus justify moving it at all. As someone said, you get it out.. then what do you do with it. I believe experience has shown all options other than rotting away are rather expensive – prohibitively so in some cases.