One per operating unit? Not a bad idea. Incidentally, I reckon the next serial after the last Whirlwind would be P7270 – it was, as Jeepman suggested it might be, unallocated.
Firebex, what are your plans for this?
Yeah, I guess you are right – if we get a data plate with that wreckage, then that’s what it should be. As for ‘next serial’ – the problem is one would be forced into invention by doing this in terms of codes etc.
Answered my own question about ‘Pride of Yeovil’ – except I was hoping to see codes and the inscription..
Alternatively, anyone know any wealthy Argentinians?
Right, here’s ribs 1 to 10 (as per the numbering scheme on the Westland drawing). I can produce more engineering-standard ones when the time comes with a more accurate scale and a higher res plot, but just for general interest here are the profiles based upon the NACA numbers quoted earlier, dimensions measured from the drawing and an assumption that the thickness/chord ratio changes at a constant rate along the length of the wing. I’ll do the inboard ones over the weekend – imminent arrival of our firstborn permitting.
Nah… 😉
Seriously, good stuff MrBlueSky
PM sent to pfP7063 and Firebex before I saw these, but anything else you have chaps bring it on anyway!
Interesting challenge what with the ribs not being parallel to line-of-flight. Them being at 90 degrees to leading edge helps – I’ll need a good think. Diagonal truss work on the Hurricane’s been good training for this one!
If anyone has the rib spacings for the mainplane I can get to work on generating intermediate rib profiles. I don’t have the Airfix magazine mentioned – does drawing No. C.S. 252 show the rib positions in plan form?
Cheers,
Matt
Really great stuff! 🙂
There’s a local firm doing an early Hurricane screen for us, though a slight degree of approximation into a compound of simple geometrical shapes (in reality only putting things a couple of milimeters out in some places) has been necessary to make it affordable. If no joy with RR’s people, I’ll get you the number.
Agreed – This person’s first language isn’t English. It’s Bull***t.
Sadly, the miss-spelling of Hawkinge and Manston suggests someone quite possibly from these shores, but who has no regard for the relationship between spelling, punctuation and the spoken word – perhaps one of the txt generation. The impression I get is of a very young Delboy with none of the charm.
Amusing though his claims are, they are also technically fraudulent. My disquiet isn’t around the attempted sale of these items – only a deserving idiot would bid – but for the future, as this person’s abilities around forgery and the written word improve with experience. Oops, I’m getting all moralistic. Sorry.
I do not wish to denegrate anyone, but there is no harm in highlighting this doubtful seller. I personally have no doubt as to the level of authenticity of his ‘Anglow (sic) Saxon broach’ – roughly the same as his prototype Spitfire propeller. I suggest that the correct place to air these doubts is via eBay’s reporting mechanism. If we all do this, he will be stopped – Mr Pewty, would you really defend him?
It is funny though – I feel kind of sorry for the chap. How to reduce the value of your items and your own credibility without really trying.
So much for pathos..
🙂 I’m guessing he thought he could make up two of these from one four-blader. Talk about not getting it!
The seller tells me that ‘its for display purposes only’ in answer to my question about rotation direction.
You can and must report him. I already have, under the ‘fraudulent listing’ category – it only defines this as a listing you SUSPECT to be fraudulent, which I presume extends to the item itself.
Richard Hillary mentions doing it (the old Severn bridge, that is) in “The Last Enemy” – it was a regular sport at his OTU – No 5 (later 55), Aston Down. The remarkable number of losses from that unit and 52 OTU around the site of the old bridge (which had a variable vertical clearance, from lots to not enough dependent upon a very large tidal range) might have had some connection to this.
To clear up any ambiguity – this is the Severn Railway Bridge, demolished in the late sixies, and not either of the current bridges. Most spans were 100 feet, while two (I think) were nearer 300 feet. The challenges for Spitfires (span 36ft 10 in) were the smaller arches (actually not arches but roughly square). I doubt you’d want to try a Wellington through one of these!
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I actually thought he or one of his guys was on this forum ?.
Try the forumite known as ‘chumpy’….
Out of interest, here’s a diagram from that crash report as mentioned earlier.. Thanks again Jeff:
So many things wrong, due to ignorance and assumption.
A glaring example – The memorial is not to an RAF Command set up for and solely tasked with the bombing of Dresden. To read the Mail article one would think that this was the case.
Groups with an ‘ism’ to promote love mass ignorance. It keeps things simple, and history maleable. The only way to deal with this is through understanding, analysis and dissemination of information. A 14 year old relation said recently ‘yeah, but the bombing of German cities was bad, wasn’t it? Because there were no nazis actually in the cities, and they never did anything to us’. Turns out this was direct from his history teacher.
If anyone fancies it, here are the maintenance and parts sections of AP1709 as held at Hendon.. Not my research, but instead the result of a remarkable co-incidence – THANK YOU JEFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://navigator.rafmuseum.org/results.do?view=detail&db=object&pageSize=1&id=12303
http://navigator.rafmuseum.org/results.do?view=detail&db=object&pageSize=1&id=12304
http://navigator.rafmuseum.org/results.do?view=detail&db=object&pageSize=1&id=12308
http://navigator.rafmuseum.org/results.do?view=detail&db=object&pageSize=1&id=13964
http://navigator.rafmuseum.org/results.do?view=detail&db=object&pageSize=1&id=21827