Yep. Then there is the possibility that some Japanese, Russian or whatever company had access to a Gamma-type wing and built something unofficial on it as an experiment, one that ended up in Spain.
From the images I have seen, western lettering was normal on Japanese civil registrations pre-war.
One can’t ‘hack about’ a stressed monocoque to create a new circular section, so this is either a lot of superficial fairing or a new fuselage.
I can see how a Northrop Gamma wing could be re-used more easily than most – and it was a strong and sound design. Doesn’t make this a Gamma, of course.. so not in agreement with NII. A Gamma with a new engine, fuselage, undercarriage and apparently tail is no more a Gamma than the bits left over after you took the wing off.
Northrop did put forward aircraft with that multi-cellular wing (as per Gamma) as fighters. And of course there was the Hurricane, and even the Typhoon. Really, lift and efficiency were as important, possibly more so than thinness, pre-compressibility thinking.
According to the Lednicer incomplete guide (an incredible work) if it was a Northrop standard wing it would be 15% at root and 9% at tip. The Hurricane was 19% at root, I believe.
..but size is important to a fighter aircraft too. I guess it’s a question of lateral stability? Sorry for the drift. On subject, does anyone know what Yakovlev was up to between the bomber who’s name I can’t recall and the Yak-1? Also, there are a series of Polykarpov fighter design numbers between i-160 and 180 that I cannot find pictures for.
Yes, I can’t really see why you would go to the effort either – what was the engineering / aerodynamic reasoning behind putting race plane cockpits so far back, as in Gee Bee etc?
Not that I am arguing that this is a Vought aeroplane, just a theory.
It was a friend of the OP’s I believe – so we are hoping for a better image at some point.
In the meantime… another wild idea. The Vought V-143 was purchased by the Imperial Japanese Navy in 1937/38. Imagine this, if you will, with a re-positioned cockpit and a fixed u/c:
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..or simply imagine a Japanese version of it. No, I don’t believe this is likely, but it’s a possible thread. The conspiracy theorists might be interested that an earlier iteration of this design disappeared over the Pacific on flight test, without a trace.. 😉
Aero 59 – the Rata’s wing was completely different. Let’s not get too circular with this, it’s best to read the whole thread.
NII_VVS, the reason it is not a Gamma is this – the geometry is NOT the same:
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It is possible but unlikely a Gamma wing was re-used in a one-off.
I don’t think anyone is now questioning that this aircraft was at the time and place mentioned, but of course this does not rule out an ‘exotic’ origin.
Meanwhile, in home news: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/02/gavin-williamson-replaces-michael-fallon-as-defence-secretary
One Minister called him a ‘slimeball’. A backbencher said the appointment was ‘Unbelievable. Ludicrous. Astonishing’. Even without the cover of anonymity, Sarah Woolaston MP tweeted ‘There are times when offered a job that it would be better to advise that another would be more experienced & suited to the role’
This will come back to bite May. It seems that the Chief Whip was part of the ongong cover-up of inappropriate behaviour amongst party members, and now he is not in the Whip’s position he will be unable to silence any investigation that reveals this.
Somebody else said this will be May’s last mistake. I hope so – she is the embodiment of the Peter principle.
To avoid accusations of bias, this is the Telegraph’s take on something that would have been a major scandal a few years ago but now just seems background noise: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/03/priti-patel-accused-failing-disclose-meetings-israel/
Not just some lackey clumsily overstepping the mark, but the actual International Development Secretary (who oversees aid to Palestine) in off-record freelance meetings with political leaders and a lobbyist for Israel and without informing the Foreign Office.
Was that supposed to be an insult aimed at me? It missed – and not just because I didn’t attend a Polytechnic.
Frankly your borish and ill-informed snobbery is as tedious as it is anachronistic (Fred Kite? Really?)
We are still waiting to hear which particular hallowed seat of learning shaped you the way it did.
Tell you what, John. I’ll write it in tabloid-speak, so the hard-of-thinking can understand:
RED TROT Dowd wants MP’s to see a report that makes GREAT country-boss May look like a plonker. A lady MP with great legs says no.
The DAILY W NK says “All labourites are STUPID, because the Government say so. OFFICIAL”. Now watch this video of someone else saying that, which we recorded off the telly, to prove it’s true.
Beermat SAVAGELY pointed this out.
Do you follow now?
Except that I have written no excuses, John. I think decades of reading tory scribllings has affected your powers of comprehension.
Seems to be rife amongst advocates of May’s suicide squad approach.