Beermat
Don’t make me change my mind about your intelligence. I said shut up whinging and moaning. Take it on the political chin. It’s happened. You won’t change it. We’re out. Get used to it.
I know I cannot change it. I am registering for them and their generation that this divisive gesture was not done in my name, but it was in yours. They can make their own judgement.
If you are right they will look down from the broad sunlit uplands and call me a silly old fool.
I don’t believe you are and that was why I made the call I did. It need not get personal, I know it hasn’t with others here who didn’t vote the way I did. It’s only democracy.
Thanks Stu. That’s about right 🙂 By the way, I didn’t know about Chateau canal.
For the record John I am 46. Old enough to spot a lying politician (the lips move). Old enough to work out what the hell is going on. Not so old as to hold a bitter grudge against the young. In fact I have two children, aged three and five, and I vote, speak and act with my conscience with them in mind. I will take ‘misguided’, but if you find that somehow hateful.. words fail.
Javohl John. Is that what you want to hear?
Actually, you won’t make anyone shut up by demanding they do. It’s that thing about the British that actually makes me proud, not ashamed.
Does nothing strike you about demanding people shut up and pretend to go with ‘the people’?
Loathing of what, John? What is it that you attack all 16 million of us so personally and vehemently for loathing?
Lies for votes? Whipped-up racism? What?
Rear fuse frame parts fabricated and ‘trial assembled’, Nothing done since last year while Mike moves his entire operation to Fishburn, purpose-builds a new workshop there and founds a museum! But the project remains together, funded and poised to continue when there’s somewhere ready to continue in!
You have my full support and I will contribute to the crowdfunding when it is set up! Thanks for posting, Stephen.
Sigma, did you honestly think you were voting to reduce queues? (Aqui, torro, aqui mismo!)
Stu, you must know the Latin quarter? Up behind the jam factory? 😉
If you believe everyone in London is a banker, then your world view is as limited as that which you accuse those in ‘remain’ areas of having.
Just had a thought – am I an adult arguing with a 12 year old? It can happen on forums.
Oh, we are going to make those concessions. We already have, minutely but saving thousands. Ours is a replica, and probably already not as accurate (off-the-shelf close-match extrusions) as this Spitfire’s fuselage. No criticism.
Wing spars. To be honest I was going on the photos. I was not aware that the firewall / carry through spar was as accurate as I since learned it is.
The more I learn of this aircraft the more impressed I am. Not that that matters.
Yes, they are all more or less reproductions 🙂
My posts were to clarify and to emphasise, increasingly, that I am NOT indifferent. How often do I have to say I admire this and those who created it?
Does me using the ‘R’ word prevent absorbtion of the rest of my post?
I am fully aware of the good reasons for departure from originality.
I know what it was built for, No point missed.
It was built for transport and static display. Different function from the original, departure from design of original.
Yes there is little practical point maintaining accuracy in an area the public won’t see where it makes things difficult. Of course. But whatever the authenticity of what then apoears to the viewer, it is a r******.
Flypast forum member Beermat said “The Daily Mail is at the heart of everything that is wrong with British journalism’. Plagiarise that.
Qld, you know that I have / am. Not 28 years yet.
OK; I accept it is very, very good indeed. I did not know the fuselage was 100% correct. Its probably a personal thing, I set a lot of store on the main spar, being at the heart of the engineering. I guess from the project I am working on (from a distance, currently) the ‘correct’ as against ‘real world practical’ spar issue looms large in my thinking at the moment. I am NOT nitpicking, and I am now fully aware of the immense achievement this represents. I am not criticising anyone or anything from an armchair.
Why are we afraid of calling a spade a spade here, and calling a Spitfire built with an accurate fuselage but wings with an internal structure designed for disassembly outboard of the undercarriage a replica? It’s not an insult! Still I am not going to argue – there are other things that are much more important in the world!
It is a beautiful and accurate thing. I do hope the insurance covers the owner’s losses.
It’s pretty special, alright! No argument there.
Snafu, I haven’t read about you, I’m waiting for the film.
I am clearly in a minority in looking at the airframe, seeing that it isn’t built like a Spitfire airframe, and thus calling it a replica. It’s a great object in itself, but it is a replica – if I took a metal frame of my own design and attached Ferrari panels and parts, would I have a Ferrari or a replica Ferrari? REGARDLESS of the quality of my work and the excellence of the object produced?
How is this a double standard?