Great photos Nick. Many thanks.
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yep super sonic is right. She’s europe’s only supersonic civilian aircraft.
Can anyone please clarifyconfirm this? My understanding from speaking with former Sea Vixen pilots is that due to the transonic characteristics of the Vixen, they were never able to exceed Mach 1.0 in level flight. However, Mach 1.2 was normally achievable in a dive of approx 30 degrees.
I thought they would be on some sort of agreed tenancy with a reasonble amount of notice required i.e 3 months.
In fairness to the trustees, I understand that they have been trying repeatedly to get the airport management to appreciate their predicament since being give notice to quit approximately three months ago. All to no avail. Some ‘big guns’ (local MP, County Councillors, etc.) have now been fully briefed on the situation and are trying to help the Museum as much as they can. Time will tell whether they are too late…..
I was over at Hurn yesterday with the wife and kids. Hard to believe that it may well have been our last ever visit.:(
The bad news is if we can’t move to the other hanger the collection
will have to be broken up which would be a shame.the volunteer’s have
put so much into the museum to make it what it is today. all that hard
work would be lost for good.plus the owners of the flying aircraft will
have to find new homes.
I feel so sad about this and I’m just a supporter of Bournemouth Aviation Museum. Heaven knows how the volunteers must be feeling right now – absolutely gutted I imagine. The impending closure of the Museum is nothing short of cultural vandalism.
How have things ended up like this? Manchester Airport Group who own Bournemouth Airport have much to answer for. It seems that the way in which they have treated Bournemouth Aviation Museum is in marked contrast to the excellent Manchester Airport Aviation Viewing Park where they continue to actively help and develop a first class museum.
Thanks for this, I’ll try and be there. Please can you confirm between what hours the event will be taking place?
Cheers,
Mark
A statement on the Museum’s website at http://www.aviation-museum.co.uk/frameset.htm is pretty stark stating that “The Museum will close permanently on the evening of Sunday 16th December as the alternative accommodation offered and future costs are not considered financially sustainable”.
I hope that some meaningful disucssions are still going on in the background but at the moment it looks very very bleak.:(
This sounds grim:(
The new location sounds totally unsuitable and one has to wonder just how interested the management of Bournemouth (Hurn) Airport really are in helping out the Museum. I’m sure that they could expand their car parking facilities AND allow the Museum to remain more or less in the location it is. I mean it’s not exactly in the way – if it were any closer to Runway 26 it would be in the flight line! 😡
I hope that a sensible solution can be agreed upon soon.
Seeing Sea Vixen XP924 flying again. Fingers crossed that a sponsor can be found soon.
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No! I hope this isn’t true. My family love the BAM – not just the collection but, as referred to above, also the fact that it’s such a great location to watch aircraft landing and taking off.
What will happen to De Havilland Aviation and their Sea Vixen? Presumably they will also have to relocate?
Sea Vixen v Phantom
I’ve also just bought Tony Buttler’s Sea Vixen Book. Whilst Air-Britain publications are far from cheap this to me is an absolute must and I can’t recommend it enough. Particularly the chapter of detailed first hand accounts by former pilots and observers.
In the hands of experienced aircrew the Sea Vixen, with its GEC AI Mk 18 radar, was a genuine world beater. One compelling account in Tony’s book describes how a Sea Vixen FAW2 beat two Phantom FG1s (F-4K) during a simulated dog fight off Lands End. Both Phantoms, flying on re-heat, ran low on fuel before either could lock their Sparrow missiles on the Vixen. Meanwhile the Vixen’s excellent Red Top missile system with its ‘head on’ capability, had successfully locked onto the lead Phantom as it approached at supersonic speed approx 13 miles away. When the dogfight was called off the Vixen still had sufficient fuel on board for a further 15 minutes of full combat and the crew rubbed ‘salt in the wound’ by returning to base at RNAS Yeovilton at ‘full chat’ and asking how many sugars the Phantom crews wanted in their tea!
One can only speculate just what would have happened had the Sea Vixen gone to war in anger.
A fantastic aircraft!:)
Cheers,
Mark
Very many thanks for this update P-K, it’s just the sort of info that I, and I expect a lot of other people on this Forum have been after. I’m sorry if my piece regarding the insurance situation was wrong, as you indicate I did submit it in good faith.
There is a lot of goodwill out there and we’re right behind you. I only wish I was a rich man or could win the lottery. In either scenario I’d be straight over to Hurn to see you.
Seriously though, if the corporate sponsorship search does end in total failure I do think that an approach to the enthusiast market has to be worth considering. However, I do appreciate that there would be a heavy administrative burden to deal with and that a minimum contribution level for any share purchasing scheme would need to be set (likely to be a lot more than fiver). I personally don’t think everyone is ‘Vulcan’d out’ and for XP924G-CVIX to be grounded forever would be nothing short of tragic.
All the very best to you and your staff,
Mark
I was over at Hurn last Sunday. Whilst no one from De Havilland Engineering was around a couple of volunteers from the Bournemouth Aviation Museum staff informed me that sponsorship to cover the insurance for XP924 has now been secured. ‘All’ that is now needed are plenty of generous bookings to help cover the fuel and other running costs.
So no official announcement yet but cause for optimism I believe. Certainly in the past the Museum staff have between them been well informed.
The Vixen was parked outside, cockpit covered up but otherwise she looked very well (see attached). Certainly not tucked away on the grass where incidentally the Sea Prince WP321 was receiving some much needed love and attention.
Fingers crossed that ‘Foxy Lady’ will be flying at Yeovilton Air Day 2007!
Cheers,
Mark
The poor weather doesn’t detract from the fact that these are marvellous aircraft and very good photos. Thanks for sharing them with us.
Mark W.:D
I think XP924 looks marvellous in her new authentic colours and I can’t wait to see her. Any news on potential sponsors to help keep her flying?
Cheers,
Mark
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I’m sure I speak for everyone on this Forum when I say I hope that a suitable sponsor comes forward to keep XP924 where she belongs – up in the sky. My late father flew Vixens with 893 Squadron back in 1963/64 and personally speaking I feel that there is nothing to compare with this magnificent type.
Incidentally, I was very interested to read your post #51 in the Simon’s Sircus thread at http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52140&page=2
Where you state “Therefore at 20,000ft she is capable of Mach 1.23 and she can operate at 50,000ft with a rate of climb that even the Typhoons can’t beat…..as we at De Hav well know”
When I last over at Hurn late last year XP924 was absent at the time and I was told that she was up at RAF Coningsby doing some tail chasing work with the Typhoons stationed there. Apparently the Vixen gave the Eurofighters quite a run for their money. Are you permitted to share any details of this with us? Also is any further MoD work likely to be forthcoming if the sponsorship position can be resolved?
All the best,
Mark
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