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April 30, 2011 at 11:06 am in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1063959

salnmark
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Are these the same wheels that would have been on LL727?

http://forum.planetalk.net/viewtopic.php?p=76847&sid=1db44ab1f89effe0bde66a8d42eb1066

If so, then the holes on the wheel look bigger than what I have.

April 29, 2011 at 12:44 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1065228

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More Pics

Ok here are some more photos of parts that were found. I have numbered every part individually so that part can be referred to when identifying.

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL14.jpg
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL15.jpg
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL16.jpg
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL17.jpg
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL18.jpg
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL19.jpg

Some of the parts I have ideas what they might be….

LL17g Strap buckle from goggles or helmet?
LL16e Linkage?
LL17h Fuel filter?
LL17j Electric cable plug?
I have duplicated LL14b, look at LL19b instead

Mark

April 29, 2011 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1065238

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I can’t help with the ident, but I find it very moving that the numbered wheel (4th photo) was handled by your father.
If nothing else, this alone is a very important find for you and your family.

The best bits will be put in a box frame and labelled with what they are and hang proudly on my wall

April 28, 2011 at 9:56 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1065881

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That’s great lateral thinking, Peter. Here’s an image of a wheel superimposed. I have to leave now. I should be able to estimate the diameter of any such wheel.
I’ll post that when I return.
Mike

This is amazing!!!
I have about 100 other bits I picked up. If there is a lot of interest I will take time to photograph a load more and post if that’s ok.

I have pieces of plexiglass, clear and blacked out as well

April 28, 2011 at 9:49 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1065898

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Interesting stuff!

Interesting too that your father’s Lancaster (LL727) was a mark II as the only piece that I thought I recognised was from a Bristol Hercules engine; hence my original question.

I think part LL1 may be an engine cowling mounting from one of the cylinder heads of a Bristol Hercules engine.

Are you saying this mounting might come from a Hercules or did the MKII have Hercules engines? I thought they all have Merlins?:confused:

April 28, 2011 at 9:45 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1065946

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Pourquoi? :confused:

Something to do with heritage, digging up artefacts, even on private land. They are not so tolerant as we are here. I didn’t know this until I googled it. I think you can get a special licence to use one though. 😉

April 28, 2011 at 8:57 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1066022

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Please tell us the story of your bomb-aimer dad, Mark.

It’s not just the broken lumps of metal that interest us.

A lot about my Dad is on the WW2 forum, link below. This goes into detail and tells most of the fascinating story prior to my visit to France 2 weeks ago. If there is anything else you like to know just ask.

http://www.ww2f.com/military-service-record-genealogical-research/35678-looking-more-infor-514-sqdn-lancaster-ll727.html

Mark

April 28, 2011 at 7:16 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1066332

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Mark, I’m sorry. I meant LL12
Mike

It is 25mm across (just under an inch)

10mm thick

holes are 10mm diameter

April 28, 2011 at 4:25 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1066686

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😀

Just a thought if you want help finding parts ask at the Metal detecting forums for volunteers you will get plenty of help wanting to do a dig, and if your in my area i too will come along with mine.

All aircraft finds you keep anything else we do.:D

There are a couple of obstacles here, one the plane is in France and two metal detectors are illegal in France 🙁

April 28, 2011 at 3:51 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1066731

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http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/e…cparts/LL2.jpg looks very much like a piece of former or intercostal

What are the dimensions? Perhaps 2 3/4″ width across the face and 5/8″ depth of flange. If so, that would suggest that it is a piece of former.

On the other hand the lightening holes are closer together than I have seen yet on any former. Much more likely it is a piece of intercostal.

My best guess is a piece of intercostal supporting the sides of the escape hatch between formers F and H in the bomb aimer’s compartment.

I think the curvature is very pronounced. Intercostals in the area above had the greatest curvature; but maybe not so much as this fragment.

Mike

Mike,

Can you confirm you meant LL2.jpg as this is a serial number plate.

April 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1066876

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I would like to go back there in the Autumn with a Ground Penetrating Radar when the field has been harvested. I am wondering how much of the plane was recovered and how much still remains. Witnesses said that it came in very low and at a shallow angle but it did make a 30 foot crater. The field is owned by the Mayor who gave us permission to search it.

April 28, 2011 at 3:22 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1066880

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http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL5.jpg

This one looks like it may be one of the damper knobs from the side of the throttle quadrant.

And this one looks like another part of the pre-selector box:-

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/salnmark/lancparts/LL13.jpg

Several versions were in use and your parts were probably compatible with any of them. This will give you an idea what they look like:-

I have a haynes workshop manual on the Lancaster which show the wheel on the side of the throttle quadrant but wasn’t quite sure it was the one. That is great news.
Is there any info out there on how these bomb selector boxes worked?
Unfortunately my Father died in 1991 and I have so many unanswered questions.

April 28, 2011 at 3:05 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1066938

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I am not sure, it might well have been. It was LL727 if that helps

April 28, 2011 at 2:43 pm in reply to: Can anyone identify these crashed Lancaster plane parts? #1067061

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That is great, my Father was the Bomb Aimer in this Lancaster.
Thank you
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