Regret to report that I am under the impression that “Ats” are a requirement for Lady Persons at Buck House on Investitures – whether Mrs Fluffy “does them”, or not!!
Time now, perhaps, for the more artistically minded of you to produce a design (with a BBMF theme) for the occasion!!!!!!!!!!!!
HTH
Resmoroh
Looks like this might just be a classic case of “presson-itis” allied to commercial considerations?
Looks, also, like UK CAA got it right – regardless of the bleatings of the air show fanatics.
Luckily (except for the pilot’s family, etc) only one fatality. It is just possible that the same type of a/c – if performing in UK – might well have impacted Tesco’s in Cambridge. That possible event would, without doubt, have been the signal for ALL historical aviation of high-performance jets flying in UK to be binned, totally, and without recourse to any appeal. Might even have binned ALL historical aviation flying stat. Exit BBMF!
Resmoroh
Now I thought, in my naive ignorance, that swearwords and words of an offensive nature would be removed by the Mods (assuming the system had not deleted them anyway). How come, then, that the dreaded word “Taceval” is allowed on the Forum?
For those not ‘in the know’ a Taceval is an RAF Tactical Evaluation of a Base, or Unit. Extreme scenarios are dreamed up by the Distaff (Directing Staff – and it’s good fun to be one of them, rather than on the receiving end!) and then the Unit/Sqn/Base has to react as if they were on a War footing. There is – as many on this Forum will agree – a great deal of ‘foul play’, and ‘underhand dealings’. There are NO Queensberry Rules on Taceval!!!
HTH
Resmoroh
PS Only those who have been Tacevaled many, many, times ever rise to the Distaff level when you can inflict misery on others. Been there, done it!
Same like Atcham,
On one of the very early Greenhams there was a Mossie blundering about in the murk who called up LATCC for a ‘check-steer’ for Greenham.
“Say type” says LATCC.
“Mosquito”
“Say again type”
“Mosquito”
After that all sorts of civil air traffic was rudely moved out of the way to accommodate the Mossie (must have been an ex-WW2 military controller at LATCC?)!!!
On the monthly change of R/T callsigns in the mid-50’s, Station Flight at Wattisham (or N Weald – age and infirmity overtakes memory!!) 11 Grp came up with “Codfish”. Station Commander stated, quite categorically, that he was not – under any circumstances – going to announce himself as “Codfish One”
HTH
Resmoroh
Sky High, Hi(!!)
I agree with you. I spent a couple of years inspecting (inter alia) the meteorological instrumentation on oil/gas rigs/platforms (mainly for their insurance purposes). The “easy” fields are becoming exhausted, and the more difficult fields are having to be tapped. When they begin to run out then the “Very Difficult” fields will have to be attempted. As you say, the exploration/production firms will want to see some (a lot!) money back for their efforts. Then bring in the fact that a significant percentage of those “Difficult Fields” may be in areas of political instability (he said cautiously!) and even the entire Athabasca Tar Sands, etc, may not provide enough aviation avgas/paraffin to allow enthusiasts to fly their aeroplanes after their Govt’s senior persons have done a jolly, or two. Except at a horrendous price!!!
Price and Politics – what chance aviation enthusiasts? They have no political, financial, or economic clout. Therefore (3 dots), logically – and using reasoned argument – the pastime is doomed within the next 40 years (or even earlier!). I am not a doomsayer, but merely proposing a reasonable hypothesis!
HTH
Resmoroh
J Boyle,
Dream on!
Resmoroh
You have to put the year 2050 into perspective.
My father was born in 1896. No radio(or TV), cars were a novelty, and nobody had invented flying. If the same exponential rate of change from 1896 to now is continued to 2050 then I suspect there will absolutely no flying whatsoever of any sort (paper darts excepted!). Long distance transport will still be in aluminium tubes but propelled by magnetism in under-sea tunnels. Nuclear powered, it goes without saying. All the oil will have run out! If there are still any enthusiasts trying to fly Spitfires, etc, as a sport it will be deemed that they are enjoying themselves. That sort of antisocial behaviour will be taxed out of existence because we will still be paying the banker’s bonuses (paid now – and then!!).
Resmoroh
And nobody seems the slightest bit concerned!!!
EVA Air Boeing 747-45EM taking off from runway 36L at Amsterdam-Schiphol (Netherlands). The great timing and angle just makes this shot, and the size of the 747, looking quite surreal. Someone must have changed his underwear after this one. The distance to the fence was 145 meters (475ft)!
I hereby acknowledge the copyright holder who’s identity I do not know!
Yrs Aye
Resmoroh
PS Tks Moggy!
Ralph, Hi,
If the document was published by ‘Her Majesty’s Stationery Office’ (HMSO in them days!) then it was available to both the military and civilians. The military (mainly the RAF) got their copies “free” from No 1 AIDU (Air Information Documentation Unit?) at RAF Northolt. Civilian operators could buy such volumes as they might need on the open market from one of the HMSO commercial outlets. If it had been an ‘RAF only’ document then the likelihood is that it would have been an Air Ministry (or MoD) document.
Whilst I understand the physics behind astro-nav, I regret to have to admit that the maths are beyond me (or were, before computers!!)
HTH
Resmoroh
With great respect (and I mean that quite sincerely, folks!) Eric Partridge is NOT the be-all, and end-all, of English usage (in whatever format!).
What is needed is for some expert on the Vickers water-cooled machine gun (of WW1 vintage) to tell us how long the ammo belt was for that particular weapon!
Whilst I almost venerate JDK’s writings, he’s gone off at a tangent on this one (and been uncharacteristically uncharitable!)
What we need is an Army Tech Ref for the length of the WW1 ammo belt, NOT the writings of some scribe, however well received he may have been in later years!
Moggy, what were you up to???????
HTH
Resmoroh
I was always told it was the length of the ammunition belts for the Vickers water-cooled machine gun used by the Army from WW1 days. Presumably that was the length of belted ammunition that would fit, when coiled, into the small ammo box?
HTH
Resmoroh
Tks that! Agree the principle is the same. What seems to be bedevilling this discussion is the subtle semantic difference between “icon”, and “iconic”!!
Meaningless poll!
But, if we’re going to have one then – as I read the runes – me, Moggy, and Kev35 (a fairly ‘heavy mob’!), seem to have the majority of the weight of opinion on the side of our ERK. I might cavill with Moggy in that his bloke with his arms deep in a Lanc Merlin was clearly a promoted tradesman whereas my bloke was not long out of training and still catching up with how the Air Force worked (we’ve all been there!!!). Pity, ‘cos the SWO will now be looking for him!!
Nevertheless, Tangmere1940 is right to call attention to this. What good does it do?
HTH
Resmoroh
Can someone just clear up a minor point? The original #1 post was in the name of the RAF Benevolent Fund (RAFBF). At some stage down the line the RAF Association (RAFA) appears to have become involved. How has this happened?
Now I know the Lord High Chief Panjandrum at RAFA (AVM(Rtd) Grahame Jones) he was the most down-to-earth Air Officer I ever worked under (and he was my Boss on TCW for a few years before he got his Brass Hat!).
Has there been confusion here, or am I missing something?
Clarification requested!
Resmoroh
Tangmere,
Re yr last para!
I agree entirely and, like you, I am not particularly partial to it and, like you, do not like it greatly. Moreoever, it is demeaning to my (Our!!) ERK. ERKs were always superior (when it came to getting things actually done!) to Air Marshals!
HTH
Resmoroh
Park82,
It has GOT to be the ubiquitous ERK! Sat on a bomb trolley waiting to load it. Hair slightly too long; cap badge and shoes not well polished (keep out of the way of the SWO!!); not many creases in uniform (and those that were appeared to have been induced by sleeping in said uniform!!); grasping an Issue white, pint-pot, full of NAAFI tea in one hand and a “wad” in the other!! And, probably, with a fag tucked behind his ear (hopefully unlit on account of what he was sitting on!!).
Your Baders, Gibsons, et al, stole the headlines. Some, Portal, Harris, et al, may have Commanded and Engineered “great things” – but without the ERK none of it would have happened.
HTH
Resmoroh