dsinnett,
If you think “everyting in the garden is rosy”, then think again!!
Resmoroh
It just shows that YOU (that is the great wide ‘you’) did not vote, in the past (if you, indeed, even bothered to vote!) for a democratic system that stopped all this EU nonsense. Your chickens are now coming home to roost!!
What you have to realise is that if you want to smell burnt paraffin (or castor oil) in the foreseeable future then this is not the way to do it. Too late! To look after your hobby/livelihood is – I regret to inform you – NOT somebody else’s job. It’s YOURS! If you’ve failed to be pro-active earlier enough, then don’t blame the rest of us!
European Panic Stations! All non-operational airframes are, by Euro decree, only to be viewed as museum exhibits.
Where were you when all this was being formulated? Smelling fumes and clicking cameras? Not good enough! You’ve only yourselves to blame!
Regretfully
Resmoroh
See below about Whittle (admittedly from Wiki!!)
Without Air Ministry support, he and two retired RAF servicemen formed Power Jets Ltd to build his engine with assistance from the firm of British Thomson-Houston. Despite limited funding, a prototype was created which first ran in 1937. Official interest was forthcoming following this success with contracts being placed to develop further engines, but the continuing stress seriously affected Whittle’s health, eventually resulting in a nervous breakdown in 1940. In 1944 when Power Jets was nationalised he again suffered a nervous breakdown, and resigned from the board in 1946.[3]
Does this indicate that WITH Air Ministry/Govt support we (the UK) might have had a jet fighter fairly early on in WW2? I am not trying to go over who did what, first, and/or when. I am simply trying to indicate that this might well have been an example of Whitehall Mandarins (forget the Politicians!) educated in Greats (Latin, Greek, Ancient History) not having a clue about Science and its application to the warfare that even they must have seen coming in 1937!
Please discuss in less than 100 Postings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Resmoroh
Why not just take the logical, hard-headed, approach and bin the old girl ASAP. I was lucky. I was part of the team that did the BLACK BUCK missions. That’s what Vulcans were about. Not passing wind at airshows. Enough said!
Who’ll take any bets about Pleming getting a knighthood in the New Years Honours? – at the same time as the company goes into administration!
C’mon – get REAL!!
Resmoroh
Yup, that’s the one.
Had just been posted as the Adj (i.e. Chief Gopher) to the Mobile Met Unit in HQ 38 Grp at Odiham. If they were short of bods (leave, sickness, etc) in the airfield Met Office we would do the odd shift to help them out. Pottering about my Met business in the airfield Met Office one day when this “thing” appeared! “It’s come for its CofA” said Air Tragic! I thought this is the new secret weapon, mostly of wood (wouldn’t show up on radar), slow (could be confused with a flock of birds), and the leaflets it distributed might have caused the fall of Communism long before the Berlin Wall.
Tks the info. Happy days!
Resmoroh
Just put my mind at rest.
Many years ago I was a Met Man at RAF Odiham. We had a replica Vimy pitch up to get its CofA. It was – so I am told – made by the Apprentices. Is this the same one? If so, I’ve been involved all through its career. Good stuff.
Resmoroh
Brilliant!
Left it as late as possible for the gusts to die down – and before he had to exercise his night IFR skills! (Query? – is the Vimy fitted with ILS???????)
Resmoroh
Dan,
Not Old Wive’s Tale (Post #9).
If you plot wind speed against (local) time you will find (over the long term) a diurnal max around the time of max temperature (say, 1400/1500). The gust factor is also much higher at that time.
The diurnal min windspeed usually (in the long term) occurs around the time of min temp – i.e. shortly after dawn.
The supposed lull in wind speed at dusk is a minor thing. What is important is that as the sun goes down – and you lose the heating – the gust factor drops off sharply. It’s gusts that bends/breaks paratroopers (same like airframes composed of sticks and string – with no disrespect to the Vimy!).
HTH
Resmoroh
Is it actually true that the long dimension of the freight hold of the Spruce Goose could accommodate the Wright Bros first flight distance?
This is what I was told when I walked round that awesomely big airframe in the Evergreen, Oregon, Museum. I’ve never bothered to check the details. Not only walk round, but also be allowed to clamber into the bits normally inaccessible to the Great Unwashed Public (it was a slack day in the Museum and, I suspect, the guide was bored!). It’s a great museum. The hardware is fantastic, but they also cater for the lady-persons! When I was there a few years ago my accompanying females were wife and step-daughter. They had resigned themselves to being bored out of their trees, but a female guide engaged them in conversation (women’s war uniforms, flight attendant’s kit, etc, etc,) to such an extent that when I returned after an hour of what I thought was as much as they could stand I was politely instructed to go elsewhere – they were deep in technical (clothes!) conversation!!
Not many aviation museums where both sides come out having had “a damn good time”.
HTH
Resmoroh
They might have a chance! See the EGLL TAF below:
TAF EGLL 141057Z 1412/1518 20020G32KT 9999 SCT025
TEMPO 1412/1418 20028G45KT 7000 SHRA PROB40
TEMPO 1412/1416 20035G55KT 3000 +SHRA TSRA BKN014CB
BECMG 1417/1420 26013KT
BECMG 1422/1501 19008KT
TEMPO 1502/1516 7000 SHRA
For those of you who don’t speak TAF-ish, they are going for the wind (in green) being 190/08kts from after 2200 tonight and until the end of the period (15/1800Z). The trick will be, I think, to avoid the rain showers (in red). Could make its last flight as exciting as any?!!!
HTH
Resmoroh
There used to be a “bang seat” Training Rig that toured the Bomber Command stations in the mid-50’s. The odd adventurous Met Man got a “ride” in this. There was also a mobile decompression chamber. The odd adventurous Met Man also got to be decompressed (sometimes explosively) in this , or demonstrated the symptoms of anoxia! When I had got all my “Ticks in the Boxes” I asked for a Familiarisation Flight (normal Met Office staff procedure). All sorts of obstacles were put in my way but eventually, after signing more Blood Chits than you can imagine, I got my Fam Flight!
But what I’m getting at was that on the Training Rig the harness, etc, was tensioned by the Techies, and when you’d come down the Doc asked all sorts of questions about what you’d experienced, and which bits of you (if any!) hurt. Was this normal?
Was this just Bomber Command, or was it in use in Fighter Command where, I suspect, it’s services may have been of more use?!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably accounts for my advancing senility!!!!!
Rgds
Resmoroh
You could do a film of all the c*ck-ups that went on. There’d be plenty of people willing to re-enact their particular b*lls-up. The General Public would not believe it!! Pity, though, it wouldn’t sell much on the open market. But those involved would know who, where, and why, every event happened!! Might cause some of the survivors to shuffle off this mortal coil laughing (not a bad way to go!!).
Don’t get me going or I might end up in Court defending myself against someone who denied having said/done/ordered “X”. Then when I produce 27 matelots/pongos/crab-fats who all chorus – like pantomime villains – “Oh, yes he did” I get at least my lawyers fees paid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Resmoroh
Neville Shute always a good aviation orientated read.
But I’m trying to get my head round Max Hastings’ “Nemesis” – his take on the Japanese War (from both sides!). I don’t know about the Axis Commanders, but it appears that a significant number of the Allied Commanders (Monty, Patton, King, McArthur, Leigh-Mallory, Browning, etc, etc) were so egomaniac as to be described as ‘Mad As Hatters’!!.
“We” never won – “They” lost because “They” (either the Top Commanders, or those lower down the ‘Chain’) made bigger and better mistakes more often than Our Lot did.
Resmoroh
I’ve always wanted to know if either (or both!) of these stories is true. I was on Ascension when the Nimrods of 42(?) Sqn pitched up in the Falklands Unpleasantness. Initially, they wouldn’t tell us where they were going which gave us, as Met Men, just a tiny bit of a problem with regard to forecasting for their mission!
However, we were told that
(a) When it was decided to send Nimrods to the S Atlantic there was a great deal of running about and shouting at St Mawgan from the Commonwealth, NATO, etc, exchange crew members. National indentifying badges/shoulder-strips were being torn off and thrown away. There were cries of “C’mon, c’mon, let’s go, let’s go”. They said “Let’s get airborne (and in radio silence) before our Govts can forbid us to go”!!
(b) As they were about to take off, some Accountant Scribbly from SHQ came out with a brief-case which he made some unfortunate Co-pilot sign for. “What’s in it?” said the Co. “A very large amount of dollars and sterling”, said the Scribbly “for which you are now responsible!”.
Nice to know after all this time if either of these stories has a grain of truth?!
Remoroh
Best as Nat Svc airman pax proceeding to Middle East in the mid-50’s. We refuelled at Malta and, after about the 3rd bacon, egg & chips in 12 hrs, we climbed back onto this York. As we were settling down I felt a drip of something on my head. It turned out to be petrol! Instant evacuation (and yet another bacon, egg & chips meal!). Air blowers were brought in to evaporate the petrol. Not, you understand, to find out why it had got there and/or to cure the problem!! Without that warning we would have got airborne and (as one did in those days) lit our fags up! The sky might have been lit up as this flaming a/c plunged into the Med!
Worst as pax on a Queen’s Flight positioning flight many years ago. The halberds of the Beefeaters were laid down the central aisle of the Andover. The G&T was not as strong as one might have liked!!! It’s difficult to criticise TQF, but there were standards that should have been adhered to!!!
HTH
Resmoroh