Tony,
“Wings Over Wiltshire”, Rod Priddle, ALD Design & Print, 396 pp, hardback,
ISBN 1-901-587-34-7
HTH
Resmoroh
I’m not trying to hi-jack this thread, but I don’t suppose there is any record in either collection of Spitfire AB131 which was landed in occupied Europe in -as far as we are aware – a fully serviceable condition after a long Met PAMPA flight.
Just grasping at straws!!
Rgds
Resmoroh
I roundly applaud Kev35’s penultimate paragraph!! In most cases, in WW2, you (civilians and uniformed) did what you could. Sometimes it was difficult to see it as part of the Great War Effort. Some got headlines – many did not, but quite a lot got headstones
Respectfully
Resmoroh
Dear All,
Those of you still seeking details of FIDO may like to know that there is a detailed account (mainly from the meteorological point of view) by Dick Ogden in the Proceedings of the first Conference on “Meteorology And World War II” held under the auspices of the Royal Met Soc at the Dept of Geog, Birmingham University on 25 Oct 1986. The Procs are at ISBN 0 948090 05 7 (pp 66-77 – at A5 size). With an ISBN number your local library may be able to find a copy!
If anybody needs any further info – or even transcriptions – then I can do some.
HTH
Resmoroh
Just to put the finishing touches to the Wattisham story. I was a National Service Airman Meteorologist there in the early 1950’s. The ATC tower was (in them days) not on ‘mains drainage’. We had Elsans on the ground floor (one for The Officers, and one for the NCOs/ORs – as one would expect!).
These were changed daily by a civilian employee who cycled out to the Tower with the “empties” hung over the handlebars of his bike. He removed the “used ones” by the same method! As he approached the Tower, early in the morning, he could be heard singing (very loudly!). He was known to all and sundry in the Tower as Elsan Neddy. Only those of you of mature years will get the play on words of the name of a crooner of (roughly) the same vintage!
Yrs Aye
Resmoroh
pagen01, (and all), Hi,
It was not my intention, in my original post, to spark a huge debate – but just to make the Forumites aware. Arguments For, or Against, are best carried out at the local level – lobbying the Local Authority Planners, Councillors, MPs, etc, etc.
My own view is that in any proposed development there should be placed on The Developers a requirement to reflect the previous history of the site. The Pub, for example (and if they still allow them!) might be called “The Lancaster” (or “Canberra”, or “The Janker Wallah’s Rest”, or whatever). Street names are relatively simple, but any Community Centre might well be required to have, at least, a small area where photographs, artefacts, memorabilia, etc, are displayed to show what the area of land once was. Many men (and women) fought, and died, from/on these old airfields Their sacrifices and memories should not be forgotten. I may be in a minority – but I hope not.
Money is, undoubtedly, to be made in these enterprises but if just 0.01% of the Profit Margin was devoted to some suitable memorial(s) then the sacrifices may not have been in vain.
“At the going down of the sun, and in the morning, we will remember them”.
Rgds
Resmoroh
Merkle,
Tks for that – much appreciated.
Rgds
Resmoroh
I note in one of the Som Co Council posts that Weston Zoyland was:
“After the war the site was briefly reactivated during the Korean War and again in connection with the Atomic Strike Force in 1955“
Does anyone know just what was going on at W Z at that time? I was in 3 Gp at the time (almost all in E England) when, suddenly, we got this 3 Gp Station in Somerset!! Trying to sort the weather out for E England AND Somerset at the same time was a pain!
Rgds
Resmoroh
James,
Oh well! Y’can’t win ’em all. Keep me in the picture if you find anything!
Rgds
Resmoroh
This might be your man?
Robert Logan born 1923
Enlisted at Padgate between Sep 39 and Jul 40 (OR Number 1076305).
LAC by 29 Aug 42 when Commissioned as A/Plt Off (128703) – Source LG
Confirmed(?) as Plt Off(?) 28 Feb 43. – source LG.
KIA 19 Jul 44 flying with 619 Sqn (Lancs). He has no known grave – source CWGC.
BUT(!!) if he was wearing his watch when KIA/NKG then how come you’ve got it? I’ve got some more on this character (if he’s yr man). Send me a PM.
HTH
Resmoroh
Mondariz, Hi,
Having been involved in UK defence (and other) transmissions for some time, I, too, would like to know the history of this (now defunct) mast. I suspect it is post-WW2.
These communications masts sprouted up all over UK. They had all sorts of things hung on them. They were relay stations for civilian telephone/telegraph channels. They had VHF repeaters for the local fire/police/ambulance services, and some even had transmit facilities for local radio/TV services in areaa where reception of the main transmiiter was not very good. They also carried line-of-site Tx/Rx channels for the Govt and/or military, and/or Civil Defence.
During WW2 there was some considerable activity, in UK, by the then GPO (General Post Office) in providing deep-laid cables. This was obviously very expensive – but in war-time expense does not really count!!! Some of these deep laid cables were pressurised with compressed nitrogen such that if (by either enemy action – or any intruder) the pressure dropped then the ‘plugs’ at either end would pop out and the signals on any channel would not be readable.
One can only assume (post-WW2) that the cost of providing masts was, then, less than the cost of deep-laid cables (much more secure!!!). Nowadays – with the increased comms speeds, and variable redundancy channels, the need for such comms masts may be decreasing (thus the demise of the Crowland mast), but it would be interesting to know what facilities/channels it supported (quite a lot, from the pix!!!) and how, now, they are routed! But we may be straying into areas which are not the prerogative of this Forum – but of other Fora.
Having used such comms masts for various miitary, and civilian, use, I would be keen to know what this one did (when in operation), and what has replaced it.
Sorry to have “gone on” a bit, but this is a fascinating piece of WW2, and post-WW2, history. It may not have been directly connected with airframes (which many on this Forum are primarily occupied) – but it does give some insight as to how/when/where those airframes were controlled.
Rgds
Resmoroh
Hi all,
In my day (a few decades ago!) the Ultimate Engine was one that would run on anything from Brylcreem (that’l age you if you know what that was!!) to peanut butter – with everything in between! I understand that my local buses are now running on the modern equivalent of refined “fish/chip frying fat”. There was a LOT of that about immediately post-WW2!!!
HTH
Resmoroh
Hanglands, Hi,
Yup, know the problem! Been there, done it, got the book, seen the film, got the T-shirt!!!!! Same thista when Wales won the Grand Slam!! Get some ZZZ’s in, man!!
Rgds (quietly!)
Resmoroh
Hanglands, Hi,
Slightly confused. The comms mast on Postland Road, Crowland, is a long way from Warboys!! Which one is it? I was born, and brought up, in Peterborough – and lived in Crowland for a short spell. Warboys was, as far as I know, built/opened in 1941 and was used by the Pathfinders of Bomber Command. It closed in the early 1960’s, and has reverted to agriculture – although you can still pick the main features of the airfield out on satpix.
Rgds
Resmoroh
Whatever the Joint Analysis Centre does, I would quietly suggest, is possibly NOT done in those two, carefully tended – and used – bunkers in the SW corner of the site. Are those vertical pylons security lighting or aerial arrays.
HTH
Resmoroh