Those where F18s of course. Every air force in the world uses F18s. Every sci-fi fan knows that! Just why I do not know. The F18 does not strike me as particularly sci-fi-ish, but still it appears in more sci-fi flicks then any other plane.

3D Studio Max CGI model (have to call the Harpoons on the model, AMRAAMs if you want to wipe out a 15 mile wide spaceship with them, however), its Cheap (oh and throw in F-14, Harrier AV-8B and F-16 models that came with the program as well)

Now were talking!

I have every single episode on official VHS and intend to move onto the DVD’s.

As for the best from that series well it has to be the Thunderbolt class starfury!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDmtJROZBRk

And for those who are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoaQgL509z8

Back to the original craft of this thread

Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTfOpa8MA8Q&NR and be home in time for pancakes 😀 😀 😀

The Simple fact is that Hilter was not that interested in invading Britain, (the invasion would only have taken place had the British virtually surrendered). The German Navy and Army were only going to do it if the Luftwaffe had wiped out the RAF first and done a big hit on the Royal Navy. Hilter’s main hope of Victory was that Goring’s boasts about the Luftwaffe smashing the British resolve and that Churchill would have been kicked out of power by some appeaser. All of that failed primary to the actions of RAF Fighter Command (with some help from the Fleet Air Arm and other RAF Commands who supplied replacement pilots I may add) and the Royal Observer Corps.

geek mode

I know those things, and they are not Y-28s. They are actually SA-43s from the TV series Space above and Beyond. Could you not get some Babylon 5 Starfuries? They are much cooler!

/geek mode

Big Vern just beat me to it.

Loved the Hammerhead, and yes they were SA-43s (I’ve got a model of one in the loft), as for Starfuries, they were differnet (Got a model of one of those as well). I still prefer the Fighting Falcon II however :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

Oh have I not posted this one before :p :diablo:

So, in terms of INF deterrence value we will come back into 1980s!
But the most important factor is whether Russia will be able to design and buy significant numbers of new IRBM??? Take into account plaintively low production rate of “Topol-M” ICBMs alone! The new IRBM can be also produced in Votkinsk plant along with Topol-M. Well, with present finance conditions Russia may be doomed to acquire some three IRBMs and three Topol-Ms annually…not much in my opinion! 🙁

No, because there will be no threat to NATO from Russia from a large number of SS-20s and vice versa with the GLCMs and Pershing IIs. Russia does however will have problems to the south and an IRBM would make an effective deterrent at a low cost. As for the INF Treaty, its old hat and totally obsolete, I can not see any reason why the Russians cannot say we want to build 100 of them, but we will base them east of the Urals and NATO can inspect them once in a while (and the US could provide a similar inspection regime for their small ABM force).

Why are so many people here talking about firing warning shots across the noses of airliners??? If thats all the EF2000 is gonna be used for then the RAF should have scraped it and gone with an advanced Hawk, the Typhoon is not meant for air policing against terrorists.
I agree the RAF Typhoons should have a gun as a last resort but when we live in a world where most pilots never get to see each other it would be unlikely for it to be used in combat.
Ok the F-4 never had a gun to start with and this cost the Yanks a few pilots, but times have changed and I doubt we will ever see an RAF or American pilot use his guns in air combat or even to straf enemies on the ground.
As far as intercepting terror planes, well we will have GR.4s and Gr.9s hanging around for a long time. So they are ground attack fighters, but when you’re intercepting a Cessna or a Boeing 747 does it matter that your not piloting an interceptor???

The problem here is the GR4s and GR9s don’t do 24/7 QRA, The F3 does and that will be the 2nd major type to be replaced by the Typhoon (after the Jaguar). As for Missile’s, fine until your missile system fails (if that happens in a fight and you don’t have a gun then you are very lacking in options). As for a bit of History, a Sea Harrier pilot had his Sidewinder system fail on entering a fight with some CANA skyhawks on 21 May 82. Emptied all of his 30mm rounds into two Skyhawks, blowing one out of the sky and damaging the other so badly that the pilot had to eject over Stanley airfield or Sharky Ward who did 3 gun attacks on a Pucara, T-34 and a Hercules. Pucara killed, T-34 cannon shell exploded within the empty rear cockpit and tail controls wasted on the C-130 after 2 Sidewinders had missed/only damaged the aircraft.

Did you ever get a chance to work with it or with those who did? What was the general opinion of it?

Had the chance to see a French IHawk Battery deployed at Sculthorpe during a NATO Exercise about three years ago, However a major fault on my kit at Neatishead stopped me from going on the day of the visit. I’ve worked with a guy who’d worked on almost all of the major US Army heavy AD systems up to Patriot with the exception of the HAWK (He was one of the US Contractors at Spadeadam), hence I know a bit about the Herc, US Roland and a little failure called Sgt York. However I did have a chat with an RAF SAM Allocator who told me a little story about a SAM Trap he set up in the Yorkshire Dales during a NATO exercise consisting off Dutch Patriot and IHAWK batteries. The debrief on the exercise had a lot of pissed off pilots who suddenly had found themselves under attack by an unknown SAM threat and declared dead by the umpires. The performance of the IHAWK according to him on this exercise was impressive.