Excellent link.

What was the story with the Whirlwind? Why was it so unsuccessful and/or unheralded? Or was it?

One word – Engines

It is better since they’ve been banned from overtaking anything other than agricultural vehicles within x miles of the base.

Moggy

That must explain how slow it is to get from Brandon to Barton Mills on the A1065 nowadays, Loads of slow moving Yanks out of Lakenheath. 😮

Since the forum censors the word s_hitty, just browse down until you find the link to “Five s_hitty movies that everyone loves” (posted 16.06.04)

Just loved the comments about Braveheart and The Sum of all Fears (However the even Tom Clancy states on the DVD that the film had almost bu**er all to do with the book).

Roland started in 1964, with two variants: 1 and 2 to develop. First production examples of Crotale 1000 were delivered in 1969. Osa entered service in 1974 and was presented to the public in 1975.
Germany, France and Russia had the similar idea, that there forces are in need of a mobile AD-system. There is nothing to get “sick” about, except wrong pride.
For the soldiers it is important only, if their weapons did fullfill the related task.
So far all customers seemed to be satisfied with their system bought.

The SA-8 is more like Roland than Crotale in the fact that the whole system is packaged in one vehicle and the systems have similar capabilities, however the similarities end there. The SA-8 system originally carried only 4 rounds and with a bit of modification was up gunned to 6 (the mods being the extra fire control systems to support the extra two rounds). They are the only rounds that it can carry (Bill Gunson in his 1979 Rockets and Missiles book stated that the SA-8 carried reloads within the vehicle, well that as based on the assumption that the electronics within the SA-8 were the same technology as that in the Roland, well they are not). The SA-8 is very late 1950’s technology, lots of valves, a few early transistors and electo-mechanical computers. Not an integrated circuit in sight. The SA-8 even has a gas turbine generator on top of the main diesel engine, just to power the electronics. Roland due to its much smaller solid state electronic systems is fitted with a reload system that carries a number of extra rounds, plus a much smaller crew. (It takes 3 personnel to engage a target with the SA-8, not including the vehicle commander. Roland needs 2, one to acquire the target the other to shoot at it (and while the gunner is engaging that target, the acquisition operator is acquiring the next target).

but none of these terrorist scum have stopped Waddington or Leuchars

They most likely don’t known where Waddington or Leuchars are located or even care :rolleyes: , However the chance to put some explosive egg in the face of the Yanks is most likely a very different matter (got to remember the Yanks are not as accustomed to the Terrorist Threat as we were in the UK).

This reminds me of another fatal glider accident, this time involving a RAFGSA aircraft (could have been a K-13) at RAF Kinloss in August / September 1980. The Girl that was killed was the best friend of my youngest Aunt (and her mother is still one of my Grandmother’s best friends). I’m not sure off what actually happened, but from what I heard at the time (I was 13), the pilot of the glider totally c**ked up a cable break and stalled the aircraft (He survived). My aunt’s friend was at the time was visiting her RAF boyfriend who was at Lossiemouth and had gone to Kinloss with him and his best mate to do something different. Anyhow four years later I’m at RAF Locking doing Technician training and a Girl on the course starts telling me of how her bother’s best mate’s girlfriend was killed in a glider accident at Kinloss in 1980. Small world isn’t it. Anyway does anybody have any details of this crash at Kinloss, just out of interest???

….no, not you? You just drive past a dogs’ home and think of a ‘Hound’, past a hospital and think ‘Hip’ operation and past a church and imagine a ‘Halo’? I’ll bet every time Peter Pan is mentioned, that bad pirate guy reminds you of a Mil Mi-6? (think about it? :rolleyes: )

HOOK!!!!