In the above shot, what is Rooney doing to Ronaldo π
Hopefully doing what Vinny Jones did to Paul Gascoine :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:
Thing is it doesn’t always NEED stealth. How much can any other aircraft carry stealthily? The answer of course is “nothing” and even then they aren’t stealthy. (unless you count the F-22 or B-2). Also it’s got six wing hardpoints. So you have six under wing hardpoints ( also the wingtips supposedly will be used in some version) in addition the internal bays. And that’s limited? Compared to what? Is one pylon that can carry four bombs worse that two stubs that can carry two bombs? :confused:
Very vaild point. 17.000 lbs load on a Lightning FG Mk 1 is a bit of a dream in the role that the UK will operate the aircraft however. (I hope that we will use that designation as F/A 2 for the Sea Harrier was not a normal UK designation (too American by half, Not slagging our cousins on the other side of the pond, but I do think we do have to keep some differences)).
17,000lbs+ is hardly what you’d consider limited.
As Edlaw quoted, Limited load when in best configuration for penetration, However most combat aircraft in normal operational configuration are limited in weapon load as they cannot manoeuvre with a massive amount of ordnance hanging underneath. If you want a stealth aircraft to orbit about with a large weapons payload to hit unplanned targets, then you will have to use a B-2. If you don’t have B-2s then best you be very friendly with the USAF. π
NO BODY in the USAF calls the F-16 the “Fighting Falcon”…..or even “Falcon”……..its a “Viper”. BTW………didnt the USAAC originialy call the P-51 the Apache (A-36)? Was it the Brits that dubbed it “Mustang”? If so, we owe the Brits a HUGE debt!
Well you can thank the Brits for accepting the offer of NAA to design and build the aircraft for the British in the first place, as well as having the engine that made the aircraft as effective as it was.
I prefer the twin turbojet supercruise one –
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/lightning/index.html
sounds much better π
What??? the one that had to wait for the Victor to get level with the Humber before launch on Binbrook QRA and it leaked fuel like anything. Yes the Lightning could supersonic without reheat, but the very limited range of the aircraft could hardly be called Supercrusie. I like the Lightning, but it was a very limited aircraft in a lot of respects (Like range , armament, very heavy pilot workload, limited radar, etc, etc), hum, just like some of the problems that they will have with the F-35 (ie limited weapon load).
Car is my excuse for missing All Airshows this month. Engine Killed by the Cosford Flooding on Tuseday.
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The Lightning II name is tacky.I mean Lockheed first named the F-22 the Lightning II before changing it to Raptor,so in that sense,I’m not suprised they threw it onto another aircraft.This shows a huge lack of creativity and hopefully,the name will be changed again,as was the case of the F-22.Probbley won’t,but we can hope.
Lockheed didn’t chose to call the F-22 the Raptor, it was the US DoD that gave the aircraft that name. :rolleyes:
F-35 name be changed again? Don’t think so. The F-22 Lightning II was an unofficial name. The F-35 Lightning II is the official aircraft name.
All we need now is a team in the US to get a EE Lightning airworthy or one from South Africa to be got to the States and that nice formation picture on the JSF web site could be done for real when the F-35 Lightning becomes operational.
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Guess we’d wait for the storms to show up to clean up the atmosphere a la “Day After Tomorrow”….
Had them in the UK Midlands on Tuseday. Flooding killed my car.
Guess we’d wait for the storms to show up to clean up the atmosphere a la “Day After Tomorrow”….
Had them in the UK Midlands on Tuseday. Flooding killed my car.
US TBF-1B Avenger = UK Tarpon
US Wildcat = UK Martlet, Martlet II
UK Merlin = Canada CormorantLightning works well enough for me.
Grumman Types in FAA service were later renamed to the USN names for inter service interoperability when British Carriers joined the US Pacific CVBGs in 1944/45.
Lightning meets the RAF criteria for the naming of Fighter-Bomber type aircraft and the Export BAC Lightningβs could carry bombs, hence it does have a link with the role of the JCA if and when we get it.
As for the name to the role, there have been a number of aircraft that have shared its name with another type but not its role.
Classics are
Bristol Bulldog – Fighter, SA Bulldog – Trainer
Hawker Nimrod – Naval Fighter, Hawker Siddley Nimrod – MR aircraft
Westland Whirlwind – Fighter, Westland Whirlwind β Helicopter
Hence there is no relevance of name to type in regards to the aircraftβs operational role.
Lots of Icons, no room for anthing else.
Lots of Icons, no room for anthing else.
If he really is from England, do you think we should try to find out where he lives? π
Maybe, however I don’t think he is really worth the time and effort!!!!
How can I be expected to take this forum seriously when people write things like “America practically owns England?” its actually almost the other way round. We just need to undeclare your independance and we’ll be laughing.
Who is this idiot??????