Depends on the dive-angle and height to start from.
Just to remember. The wing-profile of the Hawk allows supersonic speeds similar to Sea Harrier, when the Alpha-Jet has not like a MiG-15 f.e. In the last two examples more powerfull engines will not bring supersonic capabilities at all, when an Adour with AB may be enough for the Hawk. Fuel fraction in mind and related sfc brings back that idea to reality.

It does not depend on either, as I actually tried it on Valley’s Hawk Simulator back in 1993 (Max height and speed that the aircraft could get to, very steep dive, aircraft got to about .98 and would not go any faster, it also started to slow down as I got into denser air). The bloke who was driving the main Simulator control station told me the aircraft could not do it with the gun pod and pylons fitted and he was not wrong. I had the fact confirmed to me when I actually got a flight in the real thing later in that year. Yes a Hawk will do 1.2 in a dive, but only when it is totally clean.

All Hawks are allowed up to Mach 1,2 in a dive.

Unless you hang a gun pod and a couple of weapon pylons on it, then Mach 1 is in your dreams. :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

BIGVERN1966 – How come, if you didn’t watch it, you knew the dog’s name was London????? 😀

I watched the Littlest Hobo when i grew up – not avidly but often enough.

Thinking of TV dogs – anyone else see the news that Moose died aged 16? (Moose played Eddie in Frasier and appeared in over 190 episodes apparently)

I did watch a complete episode once, and I do mean only once and the only thing I remember about it was the words STARING LONDON with the dog walking down a street on the opering titles.

Well its nice to have a security clearance as you get to read some interesting stuff years before anybody who has not got one, (unless some spy has got his hands on it or you boss goes and loses it). However the down side is you can not tell the rest of the world.

Heathens, the bloody pair of you! :p

No, there was lots of quality Kids TV on when I was an nipper 🙂 , then the BBC started showing this pish!!!! 😡

another issue that should be addressed concerning ‘radar visibility’ is the radar’s wavelength. Where much of the ‘stealth’ technology that we love and embrace is designed to counter ‘modern’ radar systems, I do recall some mention in the early 90s that the F-117 could be easily detected with the old, dare I say ancient’ Soviet long-range air-defence systems which function at a far lower wavelength the the ‘modern’ AD or AA systems. (and I’m not even going to touch the subject of ‘slippery/visible when wet’)

Yes you can track the F-117 with you long wave radar. What you can not do is fit the aerial system required to give the angular resolution required to track that F-117 in a aircraft smaller than a AWACS or in a missile. Long Wave radars are also a lot easier to jam. Even with the Low Frequency Radar on the ground you have a wide return on the scope instead of a small bilp.

HATED IT!!!!!!!! The Dog’s real name was London if I remember (most likely more than one Dog in the series however), Did not see much more than the start titles as the TV got switched to another Channel immediately.