Got to admit, one of the most impressive sights I’ve ever seen was a wing attack by the Bentwaters/Woodbridge A-10’s on a mock Convoy at Sculthorpe during a Flintlock exercise in 1987. Over 60 Warhogs in the air at the same time (60 was where I lost count), all at 200 feet and pulling really tight banks right over where I was standing (edge of the Missile Site at West Raynham) ๐ . That was only matched by five C-141’s drop a battalion of the 82 Airborne on Sculthorpe direct from the US on the same exercise, a horzion full of chutes ๐ฎ . Something you don’t see everyday. ๐ ๐ ๐
thanks for all those who had replied
i was also wondering which aircraft can be seen there apart from The American F-15 Fighter?
Thanks
Nathan
According to Moggy C on another thread, there are some PAVE Hawk helicopters at Lakenheath at the minute plus at a distance you will most likely see aircraft from Mildenhall in their circuit (KC-135, MC-130 and PAVE Low helicopters). Though as noted by myself and Moggy, other NATO types can be seen operating from there from time to time.
thanks
Is there any perticular time to go down?
Nathan
There’s normally no flying on the weekends. Thought the most interesting aircraft I’ve seen there was on a Saturday (B-2 orbiting the airfield, awaiting its F-15 escort before heading to Fairford on RIAT weekend). Its been a while since I’ve been there, but there was a viewing area to the north of the airfield off the A1065, I don’t know if its still there post 9-11. Flying will normally be between 0800 – 1700 unless there is any night flying programmed. Best to keep an eye on what exercises or squadron exchanges are going on at the time on the internet forums for anything interesting.
Monday to Friday
A few years ago I read the autobiography by the Norwegian leader of this op
The film only covers part of the story,the first attempt was to use Gliders landing in a remote spot but unfortunately they encountered atrocious weather and I think that both the Tugs(Halifaxes ?) and both Gliders crashed ,the survivors being executed.
The team featured in the film actually spent months in remote areas with little food and had some close calls..some of which are in the film, and they had to take some terrible risks to achieve their success.The film stayed very close to the real story and even though the ending seemed far fetched. that is what happened…they managed to sink the ferry mid lake with minimal loss of life.
Sorry cant remember names or details but would be easy to check on the net!
Ray Mears did an excellent documentary on the operation a few years back. In his view the film (with Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris) was a bit of a travesty.
A few years ago I read the autobiography by the Norwegian leader of this op
The film only covers part of the story,the first attempt was to use Gliders landing in a remote spot but unfortunately they encountered atrocious weather and I think that both the Tugs(Halifaxes ?) and both Gliders crashed ,the survivors being executed.
The team featured in the film actually spent months in remote areas with little food and had some close calls..some of which are in the film, and they had to take some terrible risks to achieve their success.The film stayed very close to the real story and even though the ending seemed far fetched. that is what happened…they managed to sink the ferry mid lake with minimal loss of life.
Sorry cant remember names or details but would be easy to check on the net!
Youโre thinking of a completely different film (The Heroes of Telemark), about a completely different subject (Operation Grouse/Gunnerside. The SOE operations against the German production of Heavy Water for A-bomb research in Norway).
Could always go for a joint defence policy with the UK. Let a flight of RAF jets fly out of Dublin airport for a small fee in return, open up some irish airspace for training, allow irish defence pilots to train with the RAF in fast jets.
You would not even have to do most of that, A couple of F3’s at Valley in a Q shed with exchange Irish air Corps Pilots/WSOs on the detachment. Valley is closer to Dublin than Coningsby is to London and its all water between the two locations, hence the F3’s could break Mach 1 without breaking a lot of windows getting across the Irish sea. It would provide cover for most of the western side of the UK as well as Ireland, including a major target in Cumbria and not cause the political problems of having UK military assets based in the Republic.
Buy Hawk LIFT, Reason – Manufactureโs Airfield is almost on the Irish Sea and you don’t have to buy a Simulator, You just have to put your Pilots on the Dublin to Holyhead SeaCat and your a stones throw away from one.
BFOUH
Does that acronym mean what I think it means, Mr Cattermole??? :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:
One mistake by Mr Snow, however. The Spit on the starboard side of the Lanc was the Vb, not the IIa. It was good to see the BBC show the Queen smiling when the Tornado Diamond 9 from Marham flew over, not surprising as she it the honorary Air Commodore of the Station. Nice shots out of the Bomb Aimers position, however, a shot of the Mall and Buck House from that vantage point would have looked really cool. ๐
Takes me back to 1960s B of B displays. Somehow the promised F-100 or F101 display team never became much more than dots on the horizon…
William
That had not changed by the 1980’s. At a RAF Halton Families day in 1984, the F-111 from Upper Heyford did his display over Aylesbury and in 1989 I saw two A-10โs from Bentwaters/Woodbridge start to do a display over Bishops Court. The pity for the paying spectators was that they were all at Newtonards airport for the Ulster Airshow, 30 miles away.
I think I’m going to be sorry I asked :confused:
On further investigation I found this:-
PAVE is a U.S. Air Force program name relating to electronic systems. Some state that it is just a codename, rather than an acronym. Others point to the definition of PAVE in some military glossaries as “Precision Avionics Vectoring Equipment” or “Precision Acquisition Vehicle Entry”.
They include
HH-60G Pave Hawk – Egg Beater
PAVE PAWS (Phased-Array Warning System) – Ground based SLBM early warning radar
MH-53J/M Pave Low – Egg Beater
MH-53J Pave Low IIIE – Egg Beater
PAVE PRONTO – Early Herc gunship Targeting system
Pave Penny – Laser Tracker on A-10
PAVE SWORD – Laser tracker for F-4
Pave Spike – 1st Generation Laser Designator pod
PAVE SPECTRE – souped up Herc gunship Targeting system
Pave Tack – 3rd Generation Laser Designator pod
Pave Mover – USAF half of what became J-STARS
PAVE PILLAR – 1980’s avionics initiative program
PAVE PACE – 21st century system avionics initiative program
Pave Knife – 2nd Generation Laser Designator pod
MH-53M Pave Low IV – souped up Egg Beater
and PAVEWAY I, II, III, IV – Laser Guided or Laser Guided(with GPS) Bomb.
and there are more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The simple fact is that if the thing has PAVE tacked on to its name, the system has had some electronic navigation or weapon targeting system added to it. Or it is an electronics system development program of some type.
Precision Avionics Vectoring Equipment ๐ ๐ ๐
more like pushing up weeds, doing to our gardens what he and his cohorts did to the British aircraft industry, car industry, engineering ect ect ect ๐
can anyone who knows what happened to both the aircraft and car industries inthis country even consider this notion of the worst case scenario ……… LAYLAND AEROSPACE !!!!!!!! ๐ฎ ๐ฎ ๐ฎ (insert the being sick smilie here)
Greg
What planet are you on, The Tories killed engineering in this country with stupid interest rate policies. As for Leyland, were they not owned by BAe at one point (procured of the Tory Goverment for peanuts, just so they could get their hands on a very large Military Landrover contract).
There was an interesting article in a RAFHS Journal (No 31) by Healey about His time as the defence minister and in it he stated that he would have kept the TSR2 had it been a cost effective answer to the requirement. The big problem being that it was not. In his eyes the F-111K could do the job at a lower cost and it was what the Service Chiefs would have preferred purely on time scale of service entry. The IMF loan was the primary cause of the F-111K’s demise, The cancellation of it being a sweetener to the Left wingers to allow the introduction of prescription charges in the NHS. Thus was left the Buccaneer. Now Healey made a good point about the Bucc in the Journal that he wished that he had pushed the aircraft on to the RAF earlier, as in his view that aircraft was almost as good as the TSR2 or the F-111 and was infinitely cheaper (Which in hindsight was not that far off the mark).
In fact the RAFHS held a seminar on the TSR2 at Filton about 6 years ago and the conclusion of the seminar where that Healey had done the right thing in cancelling the project as it had got completely out of control on cost grounds.
Phantoms were got as a replacement for the P1154 (along with the Harrier).
Follow on to the cancelled F111K was the Bucc, to be replaced by the AFVG project (along with a Anglo French Trainer that became the Jaguar). The French pulling out of AFVG as we had design leadership (and Dasault the French side of the partnership were more interested in doing a VG Mirage). Thus was born the 6 nation MRCA, which ended up as the 3 Nation Tornado