in india maybe… but not here in old blighty… i will miss the Jaguar.. it really is a horrible thing when a old faithful retires… i actually cried when the Buccs went…… stupid sod.. :rolleyes:

You want to take a walk around Coltishall at the minute, the place is DEAD 😡 Anyway off to Marham for 5 days next week for a course, I’ll have to take the camera with me. 🙂 🙂 🙂

this thread is begining too remind me of the houses of parliment. i am starting too hear the back benchers mumberling… and the speaker shouting order…. :rolleyes: …. so do enyone on this forum like talking about AIRCRAFT……….. i watched two Jaguars roaring over my house earlier… BEAUTIFUL SIGHT… 🙂
the most pointless airforce to me…… theres no such thing…. if a nations got 2 aircraft or 10.000. is still a airforce.. and the people who run and operate them do a fantastic job…… 😉

Make the most of it, you will not be seeing the old Jag for much longer 😡

You have a very annoying habit of injecting a note of reality into discussions here. 😀

I just wish my bosses would listen to guys like me sometimes, we would then be able to afford ‘nice to have things’ like long range bombers again. 😀 😀 😀

Anders is right, that’s what I was going for. Beyond that, NATO does have its own AWACS force, at least, were they to operate by themselves.

Brits, Frogs, Saudis and Japs as well

There are two things wrong with the UK,
1) the weather i like it hot or cold, in the uk its just in the middle all the time.
2) ridiculous gun laws.

Could the moderators please do something about FLY DESI, im pretty certain that calling somebody a communist terrorist sympathiser with no evidence or provocation is against the code of conduct.

1. The UK weather is the UK Weather, its what happens when your a small island group at the center of five major airmasses.

2. F:):)King excellant Gun laws 🙂 🙂 🙂 . Two major shooting massacres and all full bore automatics and hand guns banned. The Military and the Coppers are the only people allowed to be armed with full bore weapons (in other words, people who are trained to use the bloody things correctly 😎 ). That’s why our murder rate is a small fraction of the USA’s 😉 😉 in numbers to the size of population. you however, can still get bolt action rilfes and shotguns, Guns that actually have a pratical purpose besides killing people. 😉

The Jaguar GR3 does not, and will not carry ASRAMM, period.

The difference between what the Soviets did and what the US did was minimal. Once you can launch into space and dock two vehicles in space what else is there to learn to get to the moon?

It’s not that easy or the Russians would have done it. 😉 US was streets ahead. Saturn 5 – Five 1st stage engines. N-1 thirty 1st Stage engines (and they were them most efficient ever built. Saturn V all flew with only major problems on only 3 flights (Missions were mostly successful, with the exception on the third one with suffered an engine cut out and then a service module explosion). All N-1 firings first stage failure and big explosion.

A certain German would have put a Nose Cone in orbit in 1956/ early 1957, had the US Government not been so certain that he would have done it ‘by accident’ that they removed the live forth stage of a Jupiter C that was due to do a RV test (they were fearful of the Reds shouting out ‘Spy Satellite’ which is what the US was really wanting to do) 😮 .