Has anyone got any photos of Chipmunk WB627 while being operated by 5AEF @ Cambridge. I had my first ever flight in this a/c. It has now been “reduced” to a chippax fuselage at Dulwich College in South London. A quick google shows that it attended several airshows in the late 80’s.
Found one photo at http://www.jetphotos.net/ showphotos.php?aircraft=De Havilland Canada DHC-1 Chipmunk. Its also on Airliners.net
I recently saw the film The First of the Few, about Reginald Mitchell, for the first time in many years. I did a search here for the title and was amazed that it doesn’t come up. Surely it must have been discussed before?
I am very sceptical about the film. Lots of it does not add up.
For a start, am I right in thinking that Jeffrey Crisp was a completely fictional character? After all, Mutt Summers was the first person to fly the Spitfire but in the film Crisp does, and Crisp also races the Schneider Supermarines and much more, including fighting in the Battle of Britain. Surely he was just a conglomeration of several real people?
The scenes dealing with Mitchell’s illness are rubbish too. They give the impression he died from getting tired after working too hard. The word cancer never came into the script yet he suffered twice from the affliction, the second lot killing him. Were they not allowed to say the ‘c’ word then in films? Most people would have been left wondering how he actually died.
The film omitted to mention Mitchell wanted to call the plane the Shrew.
It never mentioned that he got his pilot’s licence in 1934 after his first brush with cancer, which is interesting.
The negotiations with Sir Henry (Royce?) from RR about a new engine was laughable, all the way through saying it can’t be done then agreeing as he’s seeing Mitchell out the door. Then saying “Don’t worry about the money, it always seems to come from somewhere…” or words to that effect… What? I’m sure it never happened that way. Did it? Was Sir Henry Royce barking mad?
Also regarding the aircraft, were they real Supermarine S.6’s seen in the film? I realise the flying was models but on the ground?
I liked the acting, and don’t dislike this film, but it seems wholly innaccurate and I sincerely wish someone would come along and make a new film about the life of Mitchell, without twisting facts, does anyone else agree?
Yes, Dave, you are right, the film is almost totally innaccurate in a lot of repects. However, you have to remember when the film was made and what the film’s purpose was to put it context! It was made in 1941-42 and it was primary a propaganda film, Hence, do not expect any historical accuracy. Its real purpose was to put across a message on how everybody should pull together and make every sacrifice to win the war. As for a remake, go for it. however, lets get the facts right to fit the title, which will mean some changes. Firstly the name of the Company will have to be changed to Hawkers, the name of the designer will have to be changed to Camm and we will have to call the new fighter, the Hurricane and have it win the Battle of Britian, WHICH IT DID IN REAL LIFE! (abet assisted by the Spitfire) .
First photo I ever took of a Chipmunk, a very damp and murky BAe Hatfield open day in 1983. Not into collecting aircraft numbers, hence, I’ve no idea of the aircraft’s serial.
Has anyone got any photos of Chipmunk WB627 while being operated by 5AEF @ Cambridge. I had my first ever flight in this a/c. It has now been “reduced” to a chippax fuselage at Dulwich College in South London. A quick google shows that it attended several airshows in the late 80’s.
Make that two guys, who would like a photo of that Chipmunk, on checking my battered and faded RAF Form 3822, I did my first flight in a powered aircraft in WB627 on 12 April 1980 out of Cambridge with 5 AEF, my log shows it was coded ‘N’. Got to fly the aircraft and did some aerobatics in the vicinity of Duxford, had only been a fully enroled cadet for 30 days. Can not put any photos up at the minute (all on slide), but I’ll have a good look, scan them and post them.
Phantom flyby, St Athan!
BR,
Laurie.
It was the guy’s last flight in the Air Force before leaving the mob, so the story goes.
Wasnt this the guy who did a display at Mildenhall in a B-52 named Swashbuckler. I only remember it because of the ground efect takeoff and the fact the wings were bending during the turns. Plus i talked to one off the buff crewmembers afterwards who seemed to think that the airframe had been overstressed. however i cannot remember the year.
1990, the only year I’ve stayed at the Hall to Sundown (The first display of the B1-B, I ever saw was the last thing in the display). I’ve got some good shots of that takeoff in a slide box somewhere.
I believe that the RAF JP5s had MDC fitted. Don’t recall any Strikemaster canopies with MDC fitted.
The ‘fixing lug’ is in fact the canopy handle for opening or closing the canopy manually.CS
I checked my photos from a Mildenhall back in the 80’s and the RAF JP5 has got MDC.
A great place to see very low flying is on the RAF radar sites on West Falkland. The attached photo is of a Phantom FGR 2 of 1435 Flt doing a high speed low pass over the No 7 Signals Unit radar site at Byron Heights in Jan 1989 (mid point of my first tour down there). He is at nearly 600 Knots and is climbing!!! To add to this he has just over flown the site Antenna farm (out of the shot on the other side of radar golfball) at no more than 10 feet!!! and missed a stand alone HF radio whip aerial by less than 5!!!!. Two guys that were standing on top of the operations complex (behind the golfball) and the Fighter Controller who was watching from the hatch on the radar’s display cabin all through the aircraft was going to hit them. The phantom was the wingman of a Two ship formation. The leader flew over on the side of the golfball that I was on and I never saw him! Only heard him when he was right on top of me (and got deafened). On my second tour at Mount Alice (751 Signals Unit) in 1999, I saw a Tornado F3 do a knife edge over the site between the Golfball and a 70 ft high microwave link Tower (about 30 meters a part) with the starboard wing again not more than 10 feet of the deck (My camera ran out of film just as he got level with me, the last shot on the film being of a tornado wing!!!). One of the best ones I seen however, was on video of a Phantom flypast over Mount Alice in late 1989. The Guy came over the site, very low and very slow with every thing down (including the Hook). As he dropped below the level of the rock outcrop where most of the observers to the flypast were standing there was a massive cloud of dirt that suddenly flew up over the outcrop as he went into burners to stop dropping into the side of the mountain. the best comment on the video being ‘****’ he’s Low!!!’. Rumour has it that on getting back to Mount Pleasant, the crew got out, the pilot took his bonedome off, and the Navigator punched him! (The Nav later stated on a visit to the site that he was a second from banging out, as he through they were definitely going to pile in). The guys on the Radar Site knew the pilot after this as ‘Mad Dog’.
Flt Lt Dave Scott RAF of 234(R) Sqn 4 FTS RAF Valley who let me do some fast rolls in a Hawk T1A at 17,000 ft in December 1993 (after showing me North Wales at some interesting angles at 500 Kts at less than 400 ft).
Look Like JP5’s
A225HVY
They are not off Harriers, as there no cutouts at rear for the ports behind the cockpit. They have an MDC fitted, hence I’d agree wit A225HVY that they are off JP Mk5’s (the green ones are most likely just painted in green primer). The RAF Generator behind is also a bit of a giveaway to them not being off a Tutor.
Hi,
I may be wrong here but i think you will find that Carrier Operations is for learning and testing your skills with take-offs and landings from Carrier flight decks, no missions as such.
Thats not all they lack. My bother has a very nice RN Phantom FG1 and an Old Ark Royal on MS Combat Flight Sim. Just very one big problem and that is the Phantom always falls off the end of the deck on take off. the reason – NO CATAPULT!!!!! I doubt there’s any wires at the other end either.
Theres two actually. XZ995 and ZD668.
Thanks for the memroy jog, Dave. I thought there were two, I just wasn’t sure. Its been a while since I’ve been there.
I do recall seeing at least one Harrier GR3 in bits at the back of the Hannents model warehouse at Oulton Board near Lowestoft, last year. Anybody know about that one (I never got its number).
Quick google produced this, taken from following site:
Is this the one?
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An Incident with an F15 losing a wing and making it back is in Richard Herman Jnr’s ‘Fire Break’ in the Book a WSO tells his pilot that an F15 body lift and Tailaron will keep the aircraft flying if a wing is lost and that an Israeli pilot was the first to do it. Never expected to see the photos however.
I Have seen some good photos of the Typhoon doing the nose wheel up landing at Coningsby a couple of weeks back. Keep an eye out when the MOD release them (if they ever do) they are crackers, lot of sparks!.
Nice profile and poster – however, you appear to have left off the Scottish “Lion Rampant” from the XVI
I know that the Squadron aircraft carried the marking on the starboard side of their Spitfires. I didn’t known that it was on the port side as well. Corrections will be made.
Richie
LA198 Mk 21
see http://www.104thlocking.org.uk/GateGuardians.htm
Nice list of the aircraft that were at Locking, I’ve got photos of the Canberra and Meatbox (from above in a helicopter) somewhere. The Gant was replaced with a Marconi S259 (Type 95) Air Defence Radar. I’ve also seen the Spit XI (MK356) at Locking, however this time it was airborne. It did a sun set flypast for the Officer’s Mess Battle of Britain Ball in 1998 just before the Station closed. The majority of camp itself has now been flattened.